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this hope radio for the masses headliner

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between July 8 1947

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Yadier forthwith has announced that

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applying there has been found and is now

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in the possession of the ARB a big

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change the game changer I occasionally

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think how quickly our differences

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worldwide would vanish if we were facing

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this is fade to black with your host

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Jimmy Church on the game changer radio

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network and K GRA

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I need your help to get to the year

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you're listening to fade to black with

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jimmy touch on the game changing Network

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yeah man

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fade to black the spoke radio for math

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says yeah yeah it's Thursday

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it's another fader nights May 10 2008

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een 130 days into the new year just 235

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days left we are live from a bunker

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somewhere in downtown Burbank California

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and I would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the United States hither and

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thither to and fro back and forth up and

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down east and west north and south

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far and this is fade to black for KJ

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Sierra the game-changer Network and K

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GRA the planet I am your host Jimmy

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Church what is cracking everybody it's

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Thursday night

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it's fader night open lines all night

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long tonight tonight's well we've got

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Jon Rappoport here the bottom of the

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hour where there's no more fake newsroom

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live and then we're opening up the phone

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lines and I'm going to get a little bit

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of help tonight Nick Pope is gonna be

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here to help man the phones take your

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phone calls answer your questions all

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night long get ready for that really

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looking forward to this and it's just

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gonna be one of those nights now what

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we're gonna do we're gonna only run one

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phone line tonight 3 2 3 2 7 5 9 6 9 5

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no I'm sorry no we're gonna switch so

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let's get off that one we're gonna do 3

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the other phone bank I'm not going to

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pick that up all right okay all right

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okay follow us on Twitter I J Church

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radio Facebook you can still did you see

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my post today over on Facebook I had

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been on Facebook in three days there he

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days man Wow Wow I jumped on Facebook

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because I got an email or two awry and

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somebody named innocent - mr. John

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Facebook you didn't you know and I

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over to read the message the p.m. and

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then jumped off but I just want to make

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sure I know man I got it I got it I read

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the message right so and that happened

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twice but other than that right so I

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man maybe every three days my last post

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that's now off of my cell phone

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poof that's gone and haven't been really

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the way the app in everything secures

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that's the only reason why but I haven't

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adding friends I'm not doing anything

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over on Facebook so forget about that

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but the the company page we may keep

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live over there and use it for

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announcements and stuff like that but

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but other than that you know we don't

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not gonna update it or anything we'll

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just put a guest for the show for people

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and they can see that and get reminded

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because we're spending all of our time

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over on stellar but YouTube you can go

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and subscribe to YouTube head over to

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Jimmy Tripps radio.com and you can sub

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our YouTube channel you can follow me on

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Twitter at JD oh I told everybody on

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Facebook today if you need to get me

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Twitter and that's it and just friends

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and family or oh I'm worried about over

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on Facebook but I'll catch up to all of

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it email is Jimmy at Jimmy Church radio

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calm and you can email throughout the

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show and edgardo says I saw your pick

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that when I posted today because I was

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consuming alcohol in the picture what

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was that nice-looking drink you had in

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very very tasty tequila I don't know

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what the brand is but it's a square

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bottle that you see in the picture it's

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over on on stellar too

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I posted it on on stellar so if you go

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over to on stellar you can see what I'm

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talking about but the bottle I don't

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know if you can make it out if you click

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on the picture on on so it's pretty big

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that model right there that that painted

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that's that's what it is there's no name

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on it and that means it's expensive all

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right let's go man I'm in a great mood

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it's Thursday night I get to hang out

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with all of you we've got Nick Pope

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we've got John Rappaport tonight and

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we're gonna open up the phone lines and

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take calls from everybody all around the

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world okay so get ready for that that'll

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be at the bottom of the hour and you

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know what's weird you know because I

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have these multiple monitors here in the

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studio and I've tried to figure this out

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but this is this is what goes on if I

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all right click back and forth and I'll

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have the the page scroll when I'm not on

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it right it's weird and I can't I can't

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figure that one out why it decides to do

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that I'll click on the background I like

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yeah it just did it I clicked on my

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desktop and this thing Scrolls and I'm

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constantly having to scroll back up to

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where I was whether it's the internet or

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notes or word or whatever the scroll

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jumps and it it bothers me okay now

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breaking news let's let's get to a

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couple of things here astronomers have

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spotted a carbon-rich

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Neptune called the Kuiper belt and it

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asteroid ever found exiled from the

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inner solar system the asteroid known as

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belt now this is according to a

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Southern Observatory this ancient exiled

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what the early time was really like now

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this is what they said in the statement

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but why is this news why the press

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release it's my guess that there are

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something that we don't are we supposed

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to be alarmed about something I'm just

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speculating but all right I'm gonna give

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everybody the heads up on this today is

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day 16 of the on stellar alpha testing

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extraordinary I posted an article today

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over it on stellar you can go and just

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click on the a trending section it's

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right there's the one where I'm hosting

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up the shot of tequila and now so over

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the next 24 to 48 hours you're gonna see

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a bunch of changes and improvements into

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these site but the big news is the news

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feed so the news feed is coming probably

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around this time tomorrow night and like

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I said over the next 24 to 48 hours so I

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would like to see a call to arms happen

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everybody that is on on stellar alright

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everybody I want everybody at on stellar

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to just go out and talk about it if we

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do this over the next couple of days

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post something on Facebook or Twitter or

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mention it and opposed somewhere a forum

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maybe a conversation amongst friends if

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everybody you know the with the amount

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of people that we have on the site right

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now if I can get everybody just to go

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out there and say something to two or

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three people four people we're gonna

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bust this thing to a million users in a

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month and that's what I really really

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want to see because then the floodgates

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are gonna open and I want to get to that

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point I I'm suggesting this for you I

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want everybody involved

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and realizing what an amazing place this

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is so that's my call to arms I posted

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the article up and I want all of you to

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think about that because I'm so proud

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with all of the emails and all of the

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messages and notes and posed and and and

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we I'm so proud of everybody coming back

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oh man I cannot believe how cool this is

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thank you this is the greatest thing

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ever I haven't had one negative comment

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I haven't you can't there is nothing

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negative to say about I'm stellar

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right but it feels good when I get that

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kind of feedback and you will get that

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same feeling you want to enjoy this it's

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great

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you could be that game-changer that you

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really are just go out there and and and

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turn a couple of people onto this

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they're gonna come back to you and go

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dude dudette

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this is amazing Jimmy in red trouble

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ahead hose out of this is yeah it is

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pretty red it's almost pink that happens

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to me but I have my screen extended

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across more than one screen it's like a

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ghost cursor of sorts I know it's trippy

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it's been going it didn't use to do that

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it's only started the last couple of

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months but I've had the multiple you

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know monitor thing here for a long time

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and I don't know I can't figure it out

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I'm trying to change my habits and it

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still comes right back anyway on stellar

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just everybody's go out there opposed

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tweet do it a couple of times over the

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next couple of days because when you

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invite somebody now they're gonna come

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over on stellar they're gonna see the

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newsfeed they're gonna get registered

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they're gonna see all these friends and

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people and we're doing stuff with

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authors and researchers you know what I

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don't want to give away too much because

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I don't know which stage is gonna happen

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first well I know the news feed will be

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first but we've got some really really

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cool additions that are going to happen

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my screen is just flooded now with on

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stellar messages I don't even want to go

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over here and look I swear oh man you

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guys are too much

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I love all of you and that that little

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hoist of the tequila shot was a

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heartfelt I really do mean that just

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thank thank thank you Rita and I

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everybody here at fade to black and on

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stellar it's just absolutely incredible

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somebody posted up and on stellar and I

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don't know who it was I don't have the

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message up anymore but this picture that

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says New York City loves on stellar

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I'm gonna post this up in Twitter and

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I'm gonna get everybody's names here and

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then I'm gonna get this image up in

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Twitter but man man man you know what

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I'm gonna do right now you have to see

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this check this out check this out this

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is what life is all about right here

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this is what life is all about and I'm

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not kidding all right

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it's about this look at this picture you

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ready are you guys ready it doesn't get

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any better than this

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check this huh BAM look at that picture

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does it get any better than that

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it does not that's what this family is

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about that's what this community is

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about

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around you this is what Rita and I get

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our energy from look at that okay now

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I'm gonna I'm I am going to get

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everybody's names here and and I'm gonna

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post this far and wide but that's

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exactly right there

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look at that that's what life is about

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that's her next generation - I want to

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know everybody here everybody's gonna

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get the shout out of a lifetime but

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thank you for that all right let's see

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here okay now I announced last night on

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this show man I got a look at the clock

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here okay I got some stuff I got to get

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out of the way I announced last night on

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the show that Corey Goode is gonna be my

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special guest to come and hang out up at

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the Seoul tech gathering so look look

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forward to that like I am Corey Goods

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gonna be hanging out he's never been to

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II said II before Rogers gonna be with

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them and we're gonna do the Sky Watch

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together and and so you know Friday and

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Saturday come and hang out Corey is

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there just to be with the fader knots

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okay he's gonna be hanging out with all

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of you and if you've ever wanted to just

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you know come up and say hi or have a

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conversation there you go okay so that's

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going to go down but tickets and info

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are over at Seoul tech gathering and

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we've got the sky watch the Field of

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Dreams we're going to be teaching for

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four straight days up there

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we've got james gilliland we've got

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Jason quit Matthew Ryan Michaela Sheldon

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Teresa Ian Aras Holly Marie Mary Gabriel

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Ashley

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John lund Dana Harvey that is the most

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astounding list of teachers that you're

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ever going to want all in one place 300

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fader knots we're gonna be hanging out

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and eating and and talking and making

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friends and to having experiences and

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memories of a lifetime so go now Seoul

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tech gathering we're only selling 300

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tickets and it's August 9th through the

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12th it's coming up on us very very

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quickly okay all right August I'm

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through the 12th Seoul tech don't forget

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twenty-one days three weeks in 21 days

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June 1st through the 4th 2018 contacting

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four days sixty-five speakers I think

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it's 65 45 I don't know it's a long list

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we will be broadcasting live Friday

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night I'll be hosting panels and events

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all weekend long and introducing an M

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seeing a bunch of our friends so get

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this picture that I just posted this New

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York City shot New York City loves on

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stellar you see that fade to black hat

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right there you see that you see that

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fade to black hat that's a fader not

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right there there's only one way to get

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that hat we do not sell them I don't

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give them away I do not you can become a

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fade or not over in our membership

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section on the site you you become a

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game changer you get one of those fade

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the black hats autographed and that and

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it's a fade or not right there I don't

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know who it is I don't know I'm gonna

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find out though I'm gonna find out so

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you can do all of that in our membership

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section on the site let's get this show

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crackin happy birthday - today Bono is

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fitty eight Kenan Thompson my man that's

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right

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I like Kenan Thompson I don't care what

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you say today is 40 and one of my

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favorite movies good burger yeah when I

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was when our daughters were very young

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they they loved Kenan & Kel and when

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you're a parent you're forced into

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watching your children's programming and

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I got into Kenan & Kel absolutely sit

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and watch Kenan and Kel happy birthday

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Kenan Thompson our dead guys birthday

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today is Sid Vicious moment of silence

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please

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1957 to 1979 died at the age of 21 on

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the evening of February 1st 1979 a small

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group of friends which included Jerry

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only of the misfits and Howie pyro of

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d-generation they gather to celebrate

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Vicious having made bail he was arrested

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for murder at a friend's Manhattan

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apartment in New York City

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Sid overdosed on heroin and died in his

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sleep

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never mind the bullocks here's the Sex

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Pistols is the only studio album by the

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Sex Pistols it was released on the 28th

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of October 1977 Sid died just over two

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years later and he never got the chance

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to see how the Sex Pistols would change

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the world

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happy birthday Sid Vicious understand

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history 1877 President Rutherford B

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Hayes has the White House's first

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telephone installed in the telegraph

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room the phone number number one it

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would be fifty more years until

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President Herbert Hoover had the first

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telephone line installed at the

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president's desk in the Oval Office

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Fator fact here you go

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Bader fact vetted there are more cars

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than people in Los Angeles California

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and that is a failure of fact and until

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you've lived here not a week not a visit

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not a drive-by until you've lived here

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for a couple of years do you understand

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the truth of that there are more cars

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than people in Los Angeles California

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all right tonight's another Fator night

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Jon Rappoport and open lines all night

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long tonight we've got Nick Pope here

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it's going to join me Manning the phones

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taking your calls answering your

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questions and we'll be doing that

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top of the hour now I'm gonna hit this

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coffee cuz I got something to say and I

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did my River moon coffee gots to have it

435
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I was reading a few post that were sent

436
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to me today via email all right and it

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was really weird because I got two

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emails with about five posts from two

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different people that were cut and

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pasted in and and and where they came

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from doesn't matter because they were

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from various sources around the net but

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it was what was in them that tripped me

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out they were all pretty long but here

445
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are some of the best parts one of the

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post read you get I'm quoting here I

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just took a piece of it you can't trust

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any UFO researcher they are all in it

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for the money

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and quote now first there there are

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maybe two or three researchers out there

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that do it full-time okay and okay there

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may be more but trust me on this most

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researchers have a job have a job they

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work and I can I can tell you well I'm

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not gonna say specifically a name so Kat

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was I was just gonna rattle off a bunch

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of names because I know I know the

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researchers and I know what they do

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during the day I know this most have a

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job in career and any researcher out

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there will tell you they ain't in it for

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the money because there is no money

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alright there is there's no full-time

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gig available there are a handful a

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handful Richard Dolan has a publishing

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company I get that I and and and Linda

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has earthfiles and a few other things

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but it as Greer is doing his thing

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other than that you know it's it's very

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slim the the hundreds and hundreds of

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authors and bloggers and researchers and

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and investigators move on everybody's

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got a job they're not in it for the

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money and that's exactly why you need to

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listen to everybody and it was just a

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surprising statement and why would you

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say something like that when you don't

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really know another one read what do you

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know today about UFOs that we didn't

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know 50 years ago

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nothing and quote and I'm just like wait

483
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a minute it's like the funniest thing

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I've read all year

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anyone who says this and thinks this is

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not studying anything they're not

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studying anything nothing not from the

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past or from today they're not that this

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is this is the the weakest thing that I

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could ever imagine for somebody to post

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it's like a personal opinion from

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somebody that is just trying to troll

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because this this could not be farther

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from the truth we know so much more

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today it's really funny if you go back

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and look at the research that was being

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done in the books that were being

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written in the 50s and the 60s and the

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70s and the 80s and and the research and

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what we know about today it's two

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different things called watch a UFO

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00:25:37,090 --> 00:25:34,950
documentary from 1970 go go there's

503
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plenty of them and they're fun to watch

504
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it's just a crazy statement another one

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read some of the stuff you can't make

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you just can't make up Jimmy knows stuff

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that he isn't sharing with us he needs

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to tell us everything he's holding back

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which makes him part

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of the system and they are using him to

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feed us disinfo what normally I would

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save this print it and put it in the

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frame you know hang that on the wall but

514
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but I'm not you know but one thing I

515
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need to make really really clear my day

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is spent researching and spent writing

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working on stuff if somebody is giving

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me dis simple to share I would like to

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know how it's done because there's no

520
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opportunity there

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I basically spend my days completely

522
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alone

523
00:26:41,870 --> 00:26:36,179
what with Rita but I don't have people

524
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around me right because well I don't

525
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take phone calls

526
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I don't really pick them up and I don't

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want to give you the wrong impression

528
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here but usually I'm too busy but unless

529
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it's important and it's someone that I

530
00:26:58,220 --> 00:26:56,250
know but other than that I don't get

531
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bogged down with phone calls so I'm not

532
00:27:02,289 --> 00:26:59,820
talking to somebody that's gonna feed me

533
00:27:05,830 --> 00:27:02,299
this info or somebody that I don't know

534
00:27:08,509 --> 00:27:05,840
and most of the conversations are our

535
00:27:12,500 --> 00:27:08,519
business-related it's not like it's

536
00:27:15,049 --> 00:27:12,510
about the UFO subject 24/7 I'm talking

537
00:27:18,649 --> 00:27:15,059
to guests and researchers it could be

538
00:27:21,169 --> 00:27:18,659
about a I time-traveled a new world

539
00:27:24,710 --> 00:27:21,179
order near-death experiences dreams

540
00:27:27,919 --> 00:27:24,720
Egypt loss history it could be about

541
00:27:34,700 --> 00:27:27,929
anything right so there's that part of

542
00:27:39,019 --> 00:27:34,710
it and I only make phone calls I guess

543
00:27:42,259 --> 00:27:39,029
maybe I'm calling for the latest disinfo

544
00:27:44,570 --> 00:27:42,269
updates I don't know but I guess what

545
00:27:47,779 --> 00:27:44,580
I'm trying to say here is that anyone

546
00:27:51,460 --> 00:27:47,789
who would spend a day with me you know

547
00:27:53,810 --> 00:27:51,470
the ones that say that I'm a CIA shill

548
00:27:55,909 --> 00:27:53,820
would see that my days are totally

549
00:27:59,509 --> 00:27:55,919
normal I wake up coffee Rita

550
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dogs eat work coffee email work coffee

551
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dogs write little on stellar little

552
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Internet little Twitter write coffee

553
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dogs Rita work blah blah blah then you

554
00:28:12,740 --> 00:28:11,399
know that's my day and then it's show

555
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time and

556
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after that we go home watch some TV eat

557
00:28:20,030 --> 00:28:18,390
some dinner go to bed wake up the next

558
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:20,040
day rinse and repeat

559
00:28:25,990 --> 00:28:22,890
I would love to know how the CIA or the

560
00:28:29,540 --> 00:28:26,000
NSA or the DoD comes into the picture I

561
00:28:33,140 --> 00:28:29,550
don't I don't see the influence I don't

562
00:28:35,780 --> 00:28:33,150
see the disinfo so poster boy poster

563
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girl come and spend a day or two with me

564
00:28:42,650 --> 00:28:37,980
and let me know where the disinfo leaks

565
00:28:46,970 --> 00:28:42,660
are so I can plug them if the agencies

566
00:28:49,190 --> 00:28:46,980
are getting it done through me they are

567
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better than we all know seriously

568
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because the real question is if there's

569
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just simple getting through is which

570
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guests that have been on the show are on

571
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their payroll hmm right possible gotta

572
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think about that one

573
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this is fade to black I am your host

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Manning the phones all of that in much

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much more as fade to black

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mean by intruders

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well intruders are toxins chemicals GMOs

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heavy metals and more there are food in

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seriously yeah seriously and life

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these as you say intruders s right Chris

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Ronnie where can people purchase life

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a calm Ronnie I want to thank you for

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people don't forget get the T te a.com

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more fake newsroom in deep space which

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is the space that we suspect to be true

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that the world as it is fed to us every

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day by the Ministry of Truth is a lie a

654
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false reality a movie projected on the

655
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screen of our subconscious this however

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is the breakout all the screens crash

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they all go down and we see the light of

658
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day a new day no more robots

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no more androids is the no more fake

660
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newsroom with Jon Rappoport take it away

661
00:34:16,990 --> 00:34:14,589
I am having a little question about my

662
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audio level can you hear me okay you're

663
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good good

664
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okay good to be here good to be back

665
00:34:29,829 --> 00:34:27,169
folks so I want to get into at least one

666
00:34:33,909 --> 00:34:29,839
article tonight maybe two if we have

667
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:33,919
time because I'll be commenting as I go

668
00:34:39,940 --> 00:34:36,490
along here with the first article

669
00:34:46,450 --> 00:34:39,950
picking up on the subject of genetic

670
00:34:51,570 --> 00:34:46,460
engineering brave new world the future

671
00:34:54,790 --> 00:34:51,580
right around the corner I've been

672
00:34:59,079 --> 00:34:54,800
keeping you and myself up to date as

673
00:35:03,190 --> 00:34:59,089
well as possible and I want to continue

674
00:35:07,810 --> 00:35:03,200
this thread so we have an article from

675
00:35:11,250 --> 00:35:07,820
futurism dot-com titled we're getting

676
00:35:14,980 --> 00:35:11,260
closer to cloning humans here's what's

677
00:35:20,470 --> 00:35:14,990
stopping us this is the first article I

678
00:35:24,250 --> 00:35:20,480
see no date on it let's see no I don't

679
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:24,260
see a date so we'll presume that it's in

680
00:35:33,339 --> 00:35:30,170
the last year or two for sure okay

681
00:35:35,710 --> 00:35:33,349
as recently as the year 2000 it seemed

682
00:35:40,870 --> 00:35:35,720
almost inevitable that rogue scientists

683
00:35:43,390 --> 00:35:40,880
would start human cloning any day yes

684
00:35:46,450 --> 00:35:43,400
over the past 15 years or so genetics

685
00:35:49,030 --> 00:35:46,460
research has gotten so advanced that

686
00:35:52,030 --> 00:35:49,040
from a scientific perspective we're

687
00:35:57,849 --> 00:35:52,040
actually pretty darn close to being able

688
00:36:00,789 --> 00:35:57,859
to create human clones but no need to

689
00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:00,799
freak out just yet there are significant

690
00:36:12,339 --> 00:36:04,250
barriers and they're not only scientific

691
00:36:13,839 --> 00:36:12,349
ones skipping around here the scientific

692
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:13,849
advances have made it possible for

693
00:36:20,039 --> 00:36:15,890
companies to confidently charge

694
00:36:25,900 --> 00:36:20,049
customers to clone their beloved pets

695
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:25,910
it's definitely a real thing and then

696
00:36:32,230 --> 00:36:27,890
the article mentions something about

697
00:36:36,099 --> 00:36:32,240
Chinese scientists successfully cloning

698
00:36:40,569 --> 00:36:36,109
monkeys that lets me know this is most

699
00:36:42,309 --> 00:36:40,579
probably a 2018 article doesn't seem

700
00:36:44,859 --> 00:36:42,319
like much of a stretch that we could

701
00:36:47,470 --> 00:36:44,869
clone the humans right

702
00:36:49,270 --> 00:36:47,480
but given the science we have now it

703
00:36:53,500 --> 00:36:49,280
would still require a significant number

704
00:36:55,349 --> 00:36:53,510
of failed human pregnancies so many that

705
00:37:01,260 --> 00:36:55,359
it's hard to imagine ethics committees

706
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:01,270
allowing the research to happen hmm

707
00:37:05,559 --> 00:37:03,130
really

708
00:37:10,410 --> 00:37:05,569
many countries simply would not allow

709
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:10,420
this process any form of cloning is

710
00:37:17,650 --> 00:37:15,130
flat-out banned in 46 countries and

711
00:37:20,740 --> 00:37:17,660
reproductive cloning specifically to

712
00:37:23,410 --> 00:37:20,750
create full-grown humans is banned in

713
00:37:26,589 --> 00:37:23,420
another 32 countries leaving open the

714
00:37:29,609 --> 00:37:26,599
option to clone human cells for

715
00:37:33,210 --> 00:37:29,619
therapeutic uses but not complete humans

716
00:37:36,359 --> 00:37:33,220
however the article goes on to say

717
00:37:39,430 --> 00:37:36,369
that's not to say that just because

718
00:37:43,299 --> 00:37:39,440
scientists are not supposed to do

719
00:37:44,079 --> 00:37:43,309
something that they won't but human

720
00:37:45,819 --> 00:37:44,089
cloning research

721
00:37:48,789 --> 00:37:45,829
would require significant financial

722
00:37:50,650 --> 00:37:48,799
support and the infrastructure of

723
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:50,660
sophisticated technology it's not

724
00:37:56,609 --> 00:37:51,890
something that could be done in

725
00:37:58,779 --> 00:37:56,619
someone's basement lab therefore unless

726
00:38:01,689 --> 00:37:58,789
some mad

727
00:38:06,339 --> 00:38:01,699
the billionaire decided to attempt the

728
00:38:08,469 --> 00:38:06,349
process privately anyone who wanted to

729
00:38:11,199 --> 00:38:08,479
carry out human cloning would have would

730
00:38:17,979 --> 00:38:11,209
have some form of review board to answer

731
00:38:22,779 --> 00:38:17,989
to well what about this is now Mike um

732
00:38:27,039 --> 00:38:22,789
what about a mad billionaire what about

733
00:38:32,219 --> 00:38:27,049
several mad billionaires cooperating

734
00:38:36,429 --> 00:38:32,229
behind the scenes or what about

735
00:38:42,699 --> 00:38:36,439
organizations that can access the

736
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:42,709
sufficient funds maybe not from some mad

737
00:38:49,029 --> 00:38:45,890
billionaire but from collectively a

738
00:38:53,199 --> 00:38:49,039
number of different places to attempt

739
00:39:00,089 --> 00:38:53,209
the process of cloning a human what

740
00:39:10,259 --> 00:39:03,999
super-secret military labs and not just

741
00:39:14,469 --> 00:39:10,269
in the United States what about the

742
00:39:19,630 --> 00:39:14,479
attractive possibility that the military

743
00:39:24,999 --> 00:39:19,640
could create clones because ultimately

744
00:39:27,489 --> 00:39:25,009
their desire would be to have armies of

745
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:27,499
clones somewhere out in the future and

746
00:39:36,539 --> 00:39:31,249
they would want to do preliminary

747
00:39:40,689 --> 00:39:36,549
experiments the article concludes quote

748
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:40,699
because China hasn't formally banned

749
00:39:49,299 --> 00:39:46,130
cloning in any way some critics have

750
00:39:52,089 --> 00:39:49,309
feared the Chinese scientists might

751
00:39:56,890 --> 00:39:52,099
attempt a human clone after their

752
00:39:58,050 --> 00:39:56,900
success in monkeys yet those researchers

753
00:40:02,040 --> 00:39:58,060
at least

754
00:40:06,950 --> 00:40:02,050
aded they had no plans to clone humans

755
00:40:11,670 --> 00:40:06,960
as quote social ethics would by no means

756
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:11,680
allow that practice this last statement

757
00:40:18,030 --> 00:40:14,890
is telling should they perform human

758
00:40:20,250 --> 00:40:18,040
cloning scientists know very well that

759
00:40:24,750 --> 00:40:20,260
they would be shunned by the scientific

760
00:40:27,570 --> 00:40:24,760
and diplomatic community altogether that

761
00:40:29,730 --> 00:40:27,580
pressure alone may be enough to keep

762
00:40:32,550 --> 00:40:29,740
rogue scientists from trying anything

763
00:40:40,580 --> 00:40:32,560
even in places where there are no legal

764
00:40:53,010 --> 00:40:47,240
I don't know about that what about China

765
00:40:56,870 --> 00:40:53,020
no banned formally on cloning ample

766
00:41:01,710 --> 00:40:56,880
opportunities to do secret research I

767
00:41:06,530 --> 00:41:01,720
mean one of the countries in the world

768
00:41:10,340 --> 00:41:06,540
that really has the capacity to keep

769
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:10,350
major secrets from their own population

770
00:41:20,910 --> 00:41:15,130
not to mention foreigners what about

771
00:41:23,820 --> 00:41:20,920
that with scientists who are ordered by

772
00:41:27,260 --> 00:41:23,830
the government say in a country like

773
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:27,270
China or in a secret military facility

774
00:41:37,350 --> 00:41:31,690
in many countries with scientists really

775
00:41:41,070 --> 00:41:37,360
disobey orders on the basis that they

776
00:41:44,730 --> 00:41:41,080
would quote be shunned by the scientific

777
00:41:47,910 --> 00:41:44,740
and diplomatic community the point being

778
00:41:52,670 --> 00:41:47,920
they wouldn't be shunned no one would

779
00:41:56,010 --> 00:41:52,680
know who they were and the government

780
00:41:57,930 --> 00:41:56,020
would be on their side and the

781
00:42:01,800 --> 00:41:57,940
government or some agency of the

782
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:01,810
government would have every reason to

783
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:05,410
cover up such experiments because if

784
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:08,890
they were revealed than they the agency

785
00:42:12,780 --> 00:42:11,650
that ordered those experiments would be

786
00:42:18,900 --> 00:42:12,790
exposed

787
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:18,910
I think there's a tremendous possibility

788
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:24,490
of carrying out this research so now

789
00:42:30,930 --> 00:42:28,330
let's go to NBC News Chinese scientists

790
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:30,940
clone monkeys break barrier to human

791
00:42:42,359 --> 00:42:36,970
cloning this is actually Reuters January

792
00:42:45,060 --> 00:42:42,369
24 2018 Chinese scientists have cloned

793
00:42:49,490 --> 00:42:45,070
monkeys using the same technique that

794
00:42:53,010 --> 00:42:49,500
produced Dolly the sheep two decades ago

795
00:42:59,790 --> 00:42:53,020
breaking a technical barrier that could

796
00:43:02,220 --> 00:42:59,800
open the door to copying humans two

797
00:43:04,380 --> 00:43:02,230
identical long-tailed macaque monkeys

798
00:43:08,599 --> 00:43:04,390
were born eight and six weeks ago making

799
00:43:16,140 --> 00:43:08,609
them the first primates to be cloned

800
00:43:18,359 --> 00:43:16,150
from a non embryonic cell involved

801
00:43:20,940 --> 00:43:18,369
transferring the nucleus of a cell which

802
00:43:26,550 --> 00:43:20,950
includes its DNA into an egg which has

803
00:43:28,349 --> 00:43:26,560
had its nucleus removed researchers at

804
00:43:31,910 --> 00:43:28,359
the Chinese Academy of Sciences

805
00:43:34,230 --> 00:43:31,920
Institute of neuroscience and Shanghai

806
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:34,240
said their work should be a boon to

807
00:43:41,359 --> 00:43:36,690
medical research by making it possible

808
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:41,369
to study diseases in populations of

809
00:43:50,940 --> 00:43:47,170
genetically uniform monkeys but it also

810
00:43:58,170 --> 00:43:50,950
brings the feasibility of cloning to the

811
00:44:00,630 --> 00:43:58,180
doorstep of our own species well I have

812
00:44:05,550 --> 00:44:00,640
to comment on one of these statements

813
00:44:07,859 --> 00:44:05,560
here we hear a lot about this when it

814
00:44:09,839 --> 00:44:07,869
comes to cloning well this is a boon to

815
00:44:12,599 --> 00:44:09,849
medical research making it possible to

816
00:44:16,290 --> 00:44:12,609
study diseases in populations of

817
00:44:19,349 --> 00:44:16,300
genetically uniform monkeys in other

818
00:44:22,099 --> 00:44:19,359
words if you have 50 monkeys all of whom

819
00:44:26,060 --> 00:44:22,109
were cloned and they have the exact same

820
00:44:31,970 --> 00:44:26,070
genetic structure then you can test out

821
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:31,980
drugs to treat diseases in those monkeys

822
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:34,330
pharmaceutical companies of course would

823
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:42,850
love this yes I suppose that is true but

824
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:44,290
on the other hand in an actual

825
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:47,290
population of humans you're not dealing

826
00:44:52,410 --> 00:44:50,770
with genetically uniform people you're

827
00:44:55,500 --> 00:44:52,420
dealing with people that have little

828
00:44:59,820 --> 00:44:55,510
quirks and little differences to say

829
00:45:02,010 --> 00:44:59,830
nothing of major differences in a larger

830
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:02,020
biological picture where disease

831
00:45:08,670 --> 00:45:04,690
conditions arise and go away and come

832
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:08,680
back and so on and so forth so of what

833
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:12,850
real value is it to be able to study

834
00:45:19,350 --> 00:45:15,610
genetically uniform monkeys from a

835
00:45:25,020 --> 00:45:19,360
medical point of view or is that simply

836
00:45:27,720 --> 00:45:25,030
a cover story floated to make it seem

837
00:45:32,670 --> 00:45:27,730
that there is a significant medical

838
00:45:34,980 --> 00:45:32,680
reason for doing this cloning when in

839
00:45:41,730 --> 00:45:34,990
fact the real reason is to produce

840
00:45:45,750 --> 00:45:41,740
clones to produce clones of any species

841
00:45:50,300 --> 00:45:45,760
including humans for purposes that would

842
00:45:55,500 --> 00:45:50,310
depend upon whose ponying up the money

843
00:46:01,800 --> 00:45:55,510
get it alright let me just continue on

844
00:46:04,620 --> 00:46:01,810
with this article a bit humans this is a

845
00:46:09,030 --> 00:46:04,630
quote from one of the supervisors of the

846
00:46:11,070 --> 00:46:09,040
Chinese program humans are primates so

847
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:11,080
for the cloning of primate species

848
00:46:21,180 --> 00:46:14,290
including humans the technical barrier

849
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:21,190
is now broken that's quite a statement

850
00:46:28,109 --> 00:46:25,090
and then again we have the same story

851
00:46:30,180 --> 00:46:28,119
quote the reason we broke this barrier

852
00:46:32,810 --> 00:46:30,190
is to produce animal models that are

853
00:46:36,030 --> 00:46:32,820
useful for medicine for human health

854
00:46:40,339 --> 00:46:36,040
there is no intention to apply this

855
00:46:45,469 --> 00:46:40,349
method to humans

856
00:46:54,749 --> 00:46:49,589
and there's more on the medical cover

857
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:54,759
story etc etc the two newborn monkeys

858
00:46:58,890 --> 00:46:56,650
are now being bottle-fed under growing

859
00:47:01,759 --> 00:46:58,900
normally the researchers said they

860
00:47:06,089 --> 00:47:01,769
expect more macaque clones to be born

861
00:47:12,989 --> 00:47:06,099
over the coming months more more more

862
00:47:18,150 --> 00:47:12,999
and more and this work has actually been

863
00:47:23,099 --> 00:47:18,160
ongoing since well before in 1996 when

864
00:47:25,729 --> 00:47:23,109
Dolly the sheep was cloned the article

865
00:47:28,319 --> 00:47:25,739
states scientists have successfully

866
00:47:31,170 --> 00:47:28,329
cloned more than twenty other species

867
00:47:34,710 --> 00:47:31,180
including cows pigs dogs rabbits rats

868
00:47:39,839 --> 00:47:34,720
and mice similar work in primates

869
00:47:41,849 --> 00:47:39,849
however had always failed but the new

870
00:47:49,289 --> 00:47:41,859
research shows that it's not the case

871
00:47:50,999 --> 00:47:49,299
anymore even so their success rate was

872
00:47:54,620 --> 00:47:51,009
extremely low and the technique worked

873
00:47:58,200 --> 00:47:54,630
only when nuclei were transferred from

874
00:48:08,849 --> 00:47:58,210
fetal cells rather than adult ones etc

875
00:48:14,459 --> 00:48:08,859
etc then we have some expert of in

876
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:14,469
London Robin LaBelle badger cloning

877
00:48:20,759 --> 00:48:16,930
expert at the Francis Crick Institute in

878
00:48:23,849 --> 00:48:20,769
London says commenting on the Chinese

879
00:48:26,339 --> 00:48:23,859
research the work in this paper is not a

880
00:48:30,170 --> 00:48:26,349
stepping stone to establishing methods

881
00:48:33,150 --> 00:48:30,180
for obtaining live born human clones

882
00:48:38,519 --> 00:48:33,160
this clearly remains a very foolish

883
00:48:41,219 --> 00:48:38,529
thing to attempt he seems to be one of

884
00:48:48,779 --> 00:48:41,229
those critics who believes no we're not

885
00:48:56,670 --> 00:48:48,789
close yet and so forth and so on the

886
00:49:07,660 --> 00:49:02,850
they're trying folks they're trying

887
00:49:14,110 --> 00:49:07,670
they'll continue to try they have what

888
00:49:18,670 --> 00:49:14,120
they believe are good tools now they're

889
00:49:21,250 --> 00:49:18,680
going to continue with their work and it

890
00:49:24,510 --> 00:49:21,260
certainly stands to reason that if

891
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:24,520
anybody anywhere is making a serious

892
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:30,050
organised attempt to clone a human that

893
00:49:40,900 --> 00:49:35,930
it would be done in secret it would be

894
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:40,910
done in secret and that would cover a

895
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:44,210
huge range of experimental processes

896
00:50:02,070 --> 00:49:48,890
with many many failures many many

897
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:02,080
failures so where are the real

898
00:50:13,090 --> 00:50:07,810
prohibitions against this their laws

899
00:50:15,730 --> 00:50:13,100
there are there's peer pressure as I

900
00:50:20,290 --> 00:50:15,740
mentioned before from scientists in the

901
00:50:23,890 --> 00:50:20,300
scientific community blackballing

902
00:50:33,100 --> 00:50:23,900
certain SIA and scientists who would try

903
00:50:36,850 --> 00:50:33,110
it is that really sufficient what about

904
00:50:40,750 --> 00:50:36,860
the desire talk about mad billionaires a

905
00:50:47,260 --> 00:50:40,760
mad billionaire wants to bring back his

906
00:50:51,070 --> 00:50:47,270
mother and is so obsessed with the idea

907
00:50:53,590 --> 00:50:51,080
that he is willing to set up a facility

908
00:50:57,490 --> 00:50:53,600
somewhere and secretly fund an attempt

909
00:51:01,210 --> 00:50:57,500
to do just that there are so many

910
00:51:04,050 --> 00:51:01,220
permutations and possibilities here that

911
00:51:07,180 --> 00:51:04,060
I'm afraid the research is ongoing and

912
00:51:13,630 --> 00:51:07,190
therefore we are getting

913
00:51:21,050 --> 00:51:16,609
part of the problem is and I'll finish

914
00:51:25,970 --> 00:51:21,060
here is that in media crystal media

915
00:51:36,970 --> 00:51:25,980
coverage of these events and quote

916
00:51:42,349 --> 00:51:39,500
you read an article here you read an

917
00:51:44,540 --> 00:51:42,359
article there oh yes this attempt here

918
00:51:46,460 --> 00:51:44,550
oh yeah they succeeded in over here and

919
00:51:48,950 --> 00:51:46,470
of course there are prohibitions and no

920
00:51:51,079 --> 00:51:48,960
one would really try to clone human and

921
00:52:00,609 --> 00:51:51,089
bah-bah-bah that's the end of the

922
00:52:03,579 --> 00:52:00,619
article there are no major media tough

923
00:52:08,660 --> 00:52:03,589
extended investigations into this and

924
00:52:12,500 --> 00:52:08,670
expose 'z they don't want to spend the

925
00:52:17,030 --> 00:52:12,510
time and the money and they certainly

926
00:52:21,099 --> 00:52:17,040
don't want to find out that their

927
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:21,109
government and corporate partners are

928
00:52:32,589 --> 00:52:28,410
doing this or trying to clone humans so

929
00:52:35,270 --> 00:52:32,599
because of that we don't see the media

930
00:52:37,250 --> 00:52:35,280
pressing and pressuring I've spoken

931
00:52:38,990 --> 00:52:37,260
about this before and I'm very aware of

932
00:52:42,020 --> 00:52:39,000
because I've been working as a reporter

933
00:52:45,950 --> 00:52:42,030
for 35 years and I know the difference

934
00:52:49,030 --> 00:52:45,960
between a casual article here in a

935
00:52:55,390 --> 00:52:49,040
casual article there and pressure

936
00:52:58,430 --> 00:52:55,400
pressure exposes ongoing investigations

937
00:53:02,900 --> 00:52:58,440
which is a whole different story that

938
00:53:05,150 --> 00:53:02,910
wakes people up very very few of those

939
00:53:11,060 --> 00:53:05,160
kinds of investigations into anything

940
00:53:14,089 --> 00:53:11,070
are going on in major media today food

941
00:53:15,620 --> 00:53:14,099
for thought ladies and gentlemen thank

942
00:53:18,349 --> 00:53:15,630
you very much and it's good to be back

943
00:53:18,779 --> 00:53:18,359
and John I don't go anywhere don't go do

944
00:53:25,890 --> 00:53:18,789
you were

945
00:53:28,469 --> 00:53:25,900
member clonaid no clonaid was a company

946
00:53:32,729 --> 00:53:28,479
you're gonna remember it when i when i

947
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:32,739
mentioned this but they were a cloning

948
00:53:39,150 --> 00:53:35,410
human cloning company that that popped

949
00:53:42,859 --> 00:53:39,160
up in the 90s big sensationalism

950
00:53:47,519 --> 00:53:42,869
claiming that they had cloned the first

951
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:47,529
human child and i believe she was a she

952
00:53:55,189 --> 00:53:51,130
right they they cloned the girl and when

953
00:53:57,599 --> 00:53:55,199
all over the news and they've they've

954
00:53:59,429 --> 00:53:57,609
i'm gonna go back and look but I'm

955
00:54:03,209 --> 00:53:59,439
pretty sure I read something about them

956
00:54:04,620 --> 00:54:03,219
a few months ago that you know they're

957
00:54:07,019 --> 00:54:04,630
still running I don't know if they're

958
00:54:12,299 --> 00:54:07,029
based out of seemed like they were in

959
00:54:16,199 --> 00:54:12,309
the Caribbean or something and that they

960
00:54:17,519 --> 00:54:16,209
were doing their cloning on an island

961
00:54:20,669 --> 00:54:17,529
somewhere else

962
00:54:22,679 --> 00:54:20,679
but it was a very sensational story and

963
00:54:26,819 --> 00:54:22,689
that they said that they had that a list

964
00:54:29,759 --> 00:54:26,829
of of the doctors and their their

965
00:54:35,279 --> 00:54:29,769
techniques and how they did it but yeah

966
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:35,289
clonaid it was clonaid CE o el cielo and

967
00:54:44,569 --> 00:54:38,890
AI D if my memory I just looked it up

968
00:54:49,589 --> 00:54:44,579
yeah let's see pioneers in human cloning

969
00:54:52,140 --> 00:54:49,599
that's right and also I think that this

970
00:54:57,839 --> 00:54:52,150
is where I've got to go back in and tax

971
00:55:01,229 --> 00:54:57,849
my memory but I believe they were using

972
00:55:03,659 --> 00:55:01,239
alien technology right there's something

973
00:55:05,669 --> 00:55:03,669
there's something there was something to

974
00:55:09,359 --> 00:55:05,679
it I can't remember

975
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:09,369
okay let me read this clone aid is the

976
00:55:16,469 --> 00:55:12,130
world's leading provider of reproductive

977
00:55:21,149 --> 00:55:16,479
human cloning services Eve the first

978
00:55:24,390 --> 00:55:21,159
cloned baby was born December 26 2002

979
00:55:26,729 --> 00:55:24,400
right thanks to our team of highly

980
00:55:28,739 --> 00:55:26,739
skilled scientists at such receptor

981
00:55:30,899 --> 00:55:28,749
since then we've been able to help a

982
00:55:32,310 --> 00:55:30,909
number of patients have their own

983
00:55:34,860 --> 00:55:32,320
children through

984
00:55:38,190 --> 00:55:34,870
our cloning technology now I don't know

985
00:55:42,300 --> 00:55:38,200
if this is really true if they're really

986
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:42,310
doing this and did this or not I have no

987
00:55:49,020 --> 00:55:46,570
idea it's the first time I have looked

988
00:55:55,980 --> 00:55:49,030
at this they're talking about fill out

989
00:55:59,370 --> 00:55:55,990
our contact form yes yeah I'm gonna go

990
00:56:03,480 --> 00:55:59,380
back let's let's circle back next

991
00:56:07,380 --> 00:56:03,490
Thursday and and revisit this I'll you

992
00:56:11,070 --> 00:56:07,390
and I can talk over the week but I I did

993
00:56:14,010 --> 00:56:11,080
a lot of research back in the 90s when

994
00:56:15,660 --> 00:56:14,020
this kicked off I'm saying 90s you know

995
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:15,670
we're talking twenty years ago now so

996
00:56:23,970 --> 00:56:19,090
you know but but nonetheless clonaid

997
00:56:26,460 --> 00:56:23,980
yeah yes yeah yeah and they they they

998
00:56:28,650 --> 00:56:26,470
were in constantly doing press releases

999
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:28,660
and there were a couple of videos and

1000
00:56:34,650 --> 00:56:31,530
press conferences that were put together

1001
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:34,660
again I'm reaching back 20 years but it

1002
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:36,970
got pretty sensational there for a

1003
00:56:41,970 --> 00:56:39,490
minute but there I believe they're still

1004
00:56:44,790 --> 00:56:41,980
doing their thing and and I think

1005
00:56:46,740 --> 00:56:44,800
they're there I think they've I don't

1006
00:56:49,530 --> 00:56:46,750
know what their thing is exactly and

1007
00:56:52,260 --> 00:56:49,540
really but it's very interesting clonaid

1008
00:56:54,810 --> 00:56:52,270
can help you and then they give a list

1009
00:56:57,210 --> 00:56:54,820
of possible if you're sterile and have

1010
00:57:02,540 --> 00:56:57,220
lost hope of having the child you dream

1011
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:02,550
of if you simply want to be cloned yeah

1012
00:57:06,270 --> 00:57:04,450
immortality was the other thing that

1013
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:06,280
they were talking about Oh somebody just

1014
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:09,090
emailed me they were Raelians

1015
00:57:19,170 --> 00:57:11,650
Railly and I he thought there was kind

1016
00:57:22,620 --> 00:57:19,180
of a cult ish yeah yeah I remember the

1017
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:22,630
the woman that was the spokesperson too

1018
00:57:27,950 --> 00:57:24,810
as well anyway I don't want to waste

1019
00:57:31,470 --> 00:57:27,960
waste my time sitting here trying to

1020
00:57:33,990 --> 00:57:31,480
fire up my my frontal lobes and try to

1021
00:57:36,060 --> 00:57:34,000
remember stuff I just can't do it but

1022
00:57:38,070 --> 00:57:36,070
I'm gonna go back and revisit this and

1023
00:57:39,630 --> 00:57:38,080
listening to you tonight I was just

1024
00:57:43,230 --> 00:57:39,640
thinking to myself what ever happened to

1025
00:57:44,940 --> 00:57:43,240
that company clonaid and so there you go

1026
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:44,950
let's circle back let's who we can find

1027
00:57:47,730 --> 00:57:45,490
out

1028
00:57:50,370 --> 00:57:47,740
and and maybe they've got an island full

1029
00:57:52,620 --> 00:57:50,380
of clones somewhere you know stashed

1030
00:57:56,490 --> 00:57:52,630
away or maybe they don't and they're

1031
00:57:59,070 --> 00:57:56,500
just an island full of money I'm wearing

1032
00:58:00,030 --> 00:57:59,080
wearing body suits I remember they had

1033
00:58:02,609 --> 00:58:00,040
outfits

1034
00:58:04,740 --> 00:58:02,619
well we'll follow up with clonaid and

1035
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:04,750
maybe have some fun with that next week

1036
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:07,330
until then be safe my friend and all the

1037
00:58:13,470 --> 00:58:09,730
best Thank You Jimmy thank you so much

1038
00:58:16,849 --> 00:58:13,480
Jon Rappoport and again I say this every

1039
00:58:20,430 --> 00:58:16,859
Thursday you want to start off every day

1040
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:20,440
over at no more fake news.com all right

1041
00:58:24,900 --> 00:58:21,970
I'm gonna get out of here I'll be right

1042
00:58:26,790 --> 00:58:24,910
back with Nick Pope and we'll start

1043
00:58:29,370 --> 00:58:26,800
taking your phone calls now tonight

1044
00:58:33,060 --> 00:58:29,380
we're gonna be using three two three

1045
00:58:36,089 --> 00:58:33,070
eight two five five zero four five three

1046
00:58:38,970 --> 00:58:36,099
two three a two five five zero four five

1047
00:58:40,250 --> 00:58:38,980
I'll be right back with Nick Pope stay

1048
00:58:53,180 --> 00:58:40,260
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1049
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1086
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1087
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1088
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1090
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1095
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1096
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1097
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1098
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1099
01:01:54,460 --> 01:01:52,609
intended to diagnose treat cure or

1100
01:01:55,779 --> 01:01:54,470
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1101
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:55,789
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1102
01:01:59,019 --> 01:01:56,930
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1103
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1104
01:02:02,380 --> 01:02:00,770
this is Micah Hanks of the graylien

1105
01:02:04,779 --> 01:02:02,390
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1106
01:02:06,609 --> 01:02:04,789
church on fade to black across the globe

1107
01:02:10,020 --> 01:02:06,619
on the game-changer radio network and

1108
01:02:25,420 --> 01:02:10,030
the one and only kgr a radio the planet

1109
01:02:32,370 --> 01:02:29,839
[Music]

1110
01:02:34,109 --> 01:02:32,380
all right welcome back fade to black i'm

1111
01:02:37,589 --> 01:02:34,119
your host jimmy church tonight thursday

1112
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:37,599
night Fator night open lines all night

1113
01:02:45,569 --> 01:02:42,730
long now these are the rules tonight we

1114
01:02:50,370 --> 01:02:45,579
have Nick Pope here but I'm only using

1115
01:02:54,470 --> 01:02:50,380
one phone bank tonight so use three two

1116
01:02:57,269 --> 01:02:54,480
three a two five five zero four five and

1117
01:02:58,859 --> 01:02:57,279
we'll line up calls there anything on

1118
01:03:02,160 --> 01:02:58,869
three two three two seven five nine six

1119
01:03:04,980 --> 01:03:02,170
ninety five will not be answered okay so

1120
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:04,990
that phone bank is shut down it's it

1121
01:03:09,299 --> 01:03:07,930
makes my life easier okay so that's

1122
01:03:12,299 --> 01:03:09,309
those are the rules

1123
01:03:13,710 --> 01:03:12,309
three to three a to five five zero four

1124
01:03:16,109 --> 01:03:13,720
or five so those of you out there that

1125
01:03:17,910 --> 01:03:16,119
use speed dial with three to three to

1126
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:17,920
seven five nine six nine five and try to

1127
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:19,450
break in and try to get through and try

1128
01:03:26,250 --> 01:03:22,690
to cut in line it ain't gonna work all

1129
01:03:28,370 --> 01:03:26,260
right so let me welcome back to the

1130
01:03:32,539 --> 01:03:28,380
program Nick Pope Nick how are you man

1131
01:03:35,789 --> 01:03:32,549
fine thank you very much and now Nick

1132
01:03:39,150 --> 01:03:35,799
welcome back and and I'm so happy that

1133
01:03:42,799 --> 01:03:39,160
you took the time to come in and hang

1134
01:03:45,660 --> 01:03:42,809
out with everybody tonight and answer

1135
01:03:47,430 --> 01:03:45,670
not only questions but just hang out

1136
01:03:50,609 --> 01:03:47,440
because it's a very busy night here on

1137
01:03:54,510 --> 01:03:50,619
the show and but I want to I wanted to

1138
01:03:56,819 --> 01:03:54,520
ask you this kind of kicked things off

1139
01:03:58,980 --> 01:03:56,829
okay everybody I've got you on hold

1140
01:04:00,839 --> 01:03:58,990
everything's lining up okay it's it's

1141
01:04:02,220 --> 01:04:00,849
it's good to be crazy Nick you'll see

1142
01:04:05,279 --> 01:04:02,230
what it's like here on a Thursday night

1143
01:04:10,019 --> 01:04:05,289
it's it's a lot of fun a couple of

1144
01:04:13,769 --> 01:04:10,029
months ago I had well I got a surprise

1145
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:13,779
call from Richard Doty right not making

1146
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:16,690
this up Richard calls in and I ended up

1147
01:04:23,819 --> 01:04:19,210
talking I've never spoken to him before

1148
01:04:27,569 --> 01:04:23,829
and I talked to him for like 90 minutes

1149
01:04:31,500 --> 01:04:27,579
and during the and I was not mister

1150
01:04:33,450 --> 01:04:31,510
happy camper okay I you know I've always

1151
01:04:35,130 --> 01:04:33,460
had questions lined up for him over the

1152
01:04:38,309 --> 01:04:35,140
years in case we ever did get a chance

1153
01:04:42,210 --> 01:04:38,319
to talk but there he said something

1154
01:04:43,710 --> 01:04:42,220
during our conversation that I want to

1155
01:04:47,130 --> 01:04:43,720
relate to you because I find it very

1156
01:04:48,690 --> 01:04:47,140
interesting and certainly you've been

1157
01:04:50,370 --> 01:04:48,700
accused of this and you brought it up

1158
01:04:52,950 --> 01:04:50,380
the other night on the show that you're

1159
01:04:54,839 --> 01:04:52,960
not a disabled guy you're not part of

1160
01:04:56,190 --> 01:04:54,849
the mmod anymore that's not what goes on

1161
01:05:00,359 --> 01:04:56,200
you've been a you know that's been

1162
01:05:03,180 --> 01:05:00,369
brought up many times but Dodi said I

1163
01:05:05,700 --> 01:05:03,190
have been accused of you know being a

1164
01:05:09,839 --> 01:05:05,710
disinfo guy oddly enough that's really

1165
01:05:12,839 --> 01:05:09,849
funny but I've often wondered if I've

1166
01:05:17,609 --> 01:05:12,849
ever had a guest on the show that could

1167
01:05:22,769 --> 01:05:17,619
be right Dodi said yeah exactly Dodi

1168
01:05:26,549 --> 01:05:22,779
said that he knew that there were two

1169
01:05:33,450 --> 01:05:26,559
that he knew personally to two people on

1170
01:05:37,319 --> 01:05:33,460
the circuit that are disinfo now that

1171
01:05:40,859 --> 01:05:37,329
was an interesting comment and he said

1172
01:05:43,559 --> 01:05:40,869
one was a I believe I'm paraphrasing

1173
01:05:48,779 --> 01:05:43,569
that one was an a-level

1174
01:05:51,420 --> 01:05:48,789
a a list speaker and one was right below

1175
01:05:53,099 --> 01:05:51,430
that person didn't tell me you know male

1176
01:05:54,809 --> 01:05:53,109
or female or anything like that I didn't

1177
01:05:57,690 --> 01:05:54,819
want to know I told him I said do not

1178
01:05:59,339 --> 01:05:57,700
name names on this show right I don't

1179
01:06:02,910 --> 01:05:59,349
want to know but it was an interesting

1180
01:06:05,039 --> 01:06:02,920
statement coming out of Dodi what do you

1181
01:06:11,519 --> 01:06:05,049
think about that do you think that there

1182
01:06:14,490 --> 01:06:11,529
could be some some somebody out there on

1183
01:06:16,710 --> 01:06:14,500
the circuit that could be a

1184
01:06:20,430 --> 01:06:16,720
disinformation agent do you think that's

1185
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:20,440
possible not really to be to be

1186
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:23,130
perfectly honest and I'll tell you why

1187
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:26,890
government even if government wanted to

1188
01:06:33,260 --> 01:06:29,410
do that for a particular reason either

1189
01:06:36,420 --> 01:06:33,270
to discredit the field or to to sow

1190
01:06:38,700 --> 01:06:36,430
seeds of dissent and and to fuel

1191
01:06:42,420 --> 01:06:38,710
suspicion government wouldn't need to

1192
01:06:46,230 --> 01:06:42,430
there's there's so much rivalry and

1193
01:06:49,170 --> 01:06:46,240
hatred and not jobari if there is such a

1194
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:49,180
word that they frankly don't need to and

1195
01:06:53,309 --> 01:06:50,650
everything about government is all

1196
01:06:55,519 --> 01:06:53,319
economy of scale if you don't have to do

1197
01:07:00,979 --> 01:06:55,529
something because it's going to happen

1198
01:07:04,039 --> 01:07:00,989
you just let it run and you know we when

1199
01:07:06,609 --> 01:07:04,049
I had responsibility for this subject at

1200
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:06,619
the Ministry of Defense if I had wanted

1201
01:07:14,420 --> 01:07:11,130
to discredit the UFO community by

1202
01:07:16,819 --> 01:07:14,430
putting people in and spreading

1203
01:07:18,529 --> 01:07:16,829
disinformation I suppose I could have

1204
01:07:23,150 --> 01:07:18,539
done that but I wouldn't have needed to

1205
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:23,160
it it was doing it all by itself why do

1206
01:07:29,569 --> 01:07:27,210
you think Dodie would suggest something

1207
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:29,579
like that and he said it as a matter of

1208
01:07:34,460 --> 01:07:31,650
fact by the way he said he wasn't

1209
01:07:37,670 --> 01:07:34,470
guessing about this but why would he say

1210
01:07:39,349 --> 01:07:37,680
something like that you know he's been

1211
01:07:41,749 --> 01:07:39,359
out of the picture for so long is he

1212
01:07:44,660 --> 01:07:41,759
trying to intercept inject himself back

1213
01:07:46,579 --> 01:07:44,670
into the narrative of again and and make

1214
01:07:48,799 --> 01:07:46,589
himself significant well I mean why

1215
01:07:53,359 --> 01:07:48,809
would he say that it did freak out a lot

1216
01:07:55,670 --> 01:07:53,369
of people I don't know him I I'm not

1217
01:07:58,309 --> 01:07:55,680
sure that I've ever met him or have a

1218
01:08:02,299 --> 01:07:58,319
conversation with him so I really can't

1219
01:08:05,479 --> 01:08:02,309
speak to what his his motivation is and

1220
01:08:07,970 --> 01:08:05,489
despite all the the statements that have

1221
01:08:11,450 --> 01:08:07,980
been made because I come at this from

1222
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:11,460
the background UK government not the US

1223
01:08:17,590 --> 01:08:13,890
government I don't even know you know

1224
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:17,600
what access he has really had to this

1225
01:08:23,870 --> 01:08:21,810
subject if if we were fellow Brits I'm

1226
01:08:28,099 --> 01:08:23,880
sure I would have seen his file and vice

1227
01:08:29,930 --> 01:08:28,109
versa but you know it's it's same same

1228
01:08:32,629 --> 01:08:29,940
but different so I I don't even know

1229
01:08:35,660 --> 01:08:32,639
what what security clearance he's had

1230
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:35,670
what documents he's seen what programs

1231
01:08:42,019 --> 01:08:38,850
he's been read into so I I simply can't

1232
01:08:42,349 --> 01:08:42,029
speculate mm-hmm okay fair enough you

1233
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:42,359
ready

1234
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:44,250
you want to take some calls let's do

1235
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:46,770
this hi you're live on fade to black say

1236
01:08:54,379 --> 01:08:49,290
hi to Nick Pope who's calling all right

1237
01:08:56,749 --> 01:08:54,389
Nick this is Phil christopher's and yeah

1238
01:09:00,620 --> 01:08:56,759
actually I had two things I guess we'll

1239
01:09:05,149 --> 01:09:00,630
give it to Nick first is just based on

1240
01:09:09,019 --> 01:09:05,159
what you just said there Nick what is

1241
01:09:13,190 --> 01:09:09,029
his they had something to hide like a

1242
01:09:14,749 --> 01:09:13,200
the stealth fighter or something like

1243
01:09:17,690 --> 01:09:14,759
that I could see them doing

1244
01:09:19,220 --> 01:09:17,700
disinformation to kind of send him in a

1245
01:09:22,099 --> 01:09:19,230
different direction that's what I'm

1246
01:09:24,050 --> 01:09:22,109
trying to drive out here now as you're

1247
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:24,060
working with the Ministry of Defense

1248
01:09:31,430 --> 01:09:28,290
doesn't that seem reasonable to you yes

1249
01:09:33,860 --> 01:09:31,440
but not quite in the way that Richard

1250
01:09:36,309 --> 01:09:33,870
Doty seems to be doing this I mean no or

1251
01:09:38,470 --> 01:09:36,319
rather not in the way that he's implying

1252
01:09:45,140 --> 01:09:38,480
we certainly in the British government

1253
01:09:49,039 --> 01:09:45,150
from time to time I suppose we we found

1254
01:09:54,440 --> 01:09:49,049
it useful on occasion to almost play up

1255
01:09:58,660 --> 01:09:54,450
the idea of extraterrestrials to to hide

1256
01:10:02,300 --> 01:09:58,670
I suppose secret prototype aircraft

1257
01:10:04,490 --> 01:10:02,310
drones that sort of thing right but but

1258
01:10:07,790 --> 01:10:04,500
there would be no need there would be no

1259
01:10:10,190 --> 01:10:07,800
need to recruit somebody to go out onto

1260
01:10:11,660 --> 01:10:10,200
the UFO lecture circuit and do that

1261
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:11,670
because because there are so many

1262
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:14,970
conflicting messages coming from the UFO

1263
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:17,250
community anyway government simply

1264
01:10:26,180 --> 01:10:19,410
wouldn't need to do it to push that

1265
01:10:28,850 --> 01:10:26,190
narrative the like your you know your

1266
01:10:32,030 --> 01:10:28,860
famous picture that disappeared I mean

1267
01:10:34,370 --> 01:10:32,040
what about that could disinformation be

1268
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:34,380
used to deflect off of I'm not saying

1269
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:35,690
you did with the picture but

1270
01:10:40,670 --> 01:10:37,890
specifically with a program out there

1271
01:10:43,970 --> 01:10:40,680
maybe getting somebody out there to

1272
01:10:50,300 --> 01:10:43,980
speak about this and so maybe the

1273
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:50,310
Russians wouldn't know yes I I'm sorry

1274
01:10:53,660 --> 01:10:51,930
for the science yeah you've got some

1275
01:10:57,220 --> 01:10:53,670
interference coming in on the line but

1276
01:10:59,780 --> 01:10:57,230
go ahead that photo didn't so much

1277
01:11:02,120 --> 01:10:59,790
disappear I know exactly where it went

1278
01:11:04,190 --> 01:11:02,130
at least in the short term my head of

1279
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:04,200
division took it down because he'd

1280
01:11:10,790 --> 01:11:06,210
convinced himself that it did indeed

1281
01:11:14,570 --> 01:11:10,800
show some classified hypersonic aircraft

1282
01:11:17,090 --> 01:11:14,580
that either the US or the UK government

1283
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:17,100
had and that we on the UFO project

1284
01:11:22,530 --> 01:11:20,690
didn't have a read in to that particular

1285
01:11:24,060 --> 01:11:22,540
classified project

1286
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:24,070
so that's where it went in the

1287
01:11:28,530 --> 01:11:26,650
short-term now where it went after that

1288
01:11:32,070 --> 01:11:28,540
I don't know it certainly hasn't turned

1289
01:11:35,010 --> 01:11:32,080
up in in the declassification release of

1290
01:11:35,730 --> 01:11:35,020
the files but it's it's it's out there

1291
01:11:37,980 --> 01:11:35,740
somewhere

1292
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:37,990
it's probably on someone's office wall

1293
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:42,090
still to this day and when it comes to

1294
01:11:49,220 --> 01:11:45,250
somebody like Richard Doty when he had

1295
01:11:53,490 --> 01:11:49,230
specifically said on this program that

1296
01:11:56,610 --> 01:11:53,500
he was at a UFO conference after he had

1297
01:11:59,010 --> 01:11:56,620
left right he had left the Air Force and

1298
01:12:02,010 --> 01:11:59,020
he went to a UFO conference and looked

1299
01:12:09,780 --> 01:12:02,020
out into the audience and specifically

1300
01:12:11,550 --> 01:12:09,790
saw a half a dozen agents a Air Force

1301
01:12:13,770 --> 01:12:11,560
agents plain clothes that were sitting

1302
01:12:17,220 --> 01:12:13,780
in the audience and they knew who he was

1303
01:12:20,820 --> 01:12:17,230
he knew who they were and he saw it for

1304
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:20,830
himself now that doesn't surprise me and

1305
01:12:28,350 --> 01:12:24,850
I have actually done that myself back in

1306
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:28,360
oh I think it was probably 92 93 maybe

1307
01:12:36,060 --> 01:12:31,690
94 I went to a few UFO conferences in

1308
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:36,070
the UK and I sat at the back and I took

1309
01:12:41,420 --> 01:12:38,250
some notes and I tried to blend in and

1310
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:41,430
but I wasn't that was not disinformation

1311
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:46,690
that was simply me wanting to see what

1312
01:12:54,030 --> 01:12:50,290
if any information the UFO community had

1313
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:54,040
acquired about classified aerospace

1314
01:12:59,160 --> 01:12:57,010
programs that's that's very interesting

1315
01:13:01,200 --> 01:12:59,170
and certainly on the other side of the

1316
01:13:03,210 --> 01:13:01,210
fence you're there acquiring information

1317
01:13:05,460 --> 01:13:03,220
maybe you want to know what the UFO

1318
01:13:08,150 --> 01:13:05,470
community is is currently talking about

1319
01:13:12,420 --> 01:13:08,160
and you need to stay out in front right

1320
01:13:16,470 --> 01:13:12,430
yes so I think it was keeping an eye on

1321
01:13:18,650 --> 01:13:16,480
the UFO community another example of

1322
01:13:20,850 --> 01:13:18,660
that is literally we took out

1323
01:13:22,710 --> 01:13:20,860
subscriptions to some of the magazines

1324
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:22,720
that were doing the rounds and we had

1325
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:26,050
them sent to a p.o box number and they

1326
01:13:31,170 --> 01:13:28,330
ended up on my desk and it was simply

1327
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:31,180
you know have these people stumbled

1328
01:13:39,060 --> 01:13:36,489
across stealth programs for example that

1329
01:13:41,940 --> 01:13:39,070
we would rather that they hadn't

1330
01:13:45,209 --> 01:13:41,950
stumbled across and if so can we get

1331
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:45,219
that genie back into the bottle or not

1332
01:13:49,170 --> 01:13:47,050
but but before we even make that

1333
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:49,180
decision we have to find out who who

1334
01:13:54,420 --> 01:13:51,690
knows what so that means sometimes

1335
01:13:56,430 --> 01:13:54,430
subscribing to the magazines and sitting

1336
01:13:58,920 --> 01:13:56,440
at the conference so on that point I

1337
01:14:01,410 --> 01:13:58,930
would agree with with Richard Doty that

1338
01:14:03,180 --> 01:14:01,420
that that sort of thing does go on I've

1339
01:14:05,370 --> 01:14:03,190
got this question here from our producer

1340
01:14:07,740 --> 01:14:05,380
Renee that she sent me earlier today so

1341
01:14:10,350 --> 01:14:07,750
I wanted to get this into you before

1342
01:14:13,440 --> 01:14:10,360
things get out of control three two

1343
01:14:17,610 --> 01:14:13,450
three eight two five five zero four or

1344
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:17,620
five is this since so many humans want

1345
01:14:23,459 --> 01:14:21,130
ETS here openly do you think the ETS

1346
01:14:25,110 --> 01:14:23,469
currently interacting with the military

1347
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:25,120
and government officials who prefer

1348
01:14:32,420 --> 01:14:27,850
secrecy for their own advantage should

1349
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:32,430
just reveal themselves to the public

1350
01:14:39,300 --> 01:14:35,850
well if if they're here and if that's

1351
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:39,310
what's happening absolutely I think the

1352
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:40,810
world would be far more interesting

1353
01:14:47,610 --> 01:14:45,010
after that revelation than before it but

1354
01:14:50,459 --> 01:14:47,620
but I mean the question is is that the

1355
01:14:53,190 --> 01:14:50,469
situation and if it is is that actually

1356
01:14:56,670 --> 01:14:53,200
going to happen probably not I mean I

1357
01:14:58,979 --> 01:14:56,680
think that one of the few assumptions we

1358
01:15:01,860 --> 01:14:58,989
can make about what's going on is that

1359
01:15:03,900 --> 01:15:01,870
if if we are being visited if there is

1360
01:15:06,870 --> 01:15:03,910
some interaction it is going on on a

1361
01:15:09,150 --> 01:15:06,880
covert level and we don't have the

1362
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:09,160
archetypal landing on the White House

1363
01:15:18,420 --> 01:15:11,290
lawn and there's probably a reason for

1364
01:15:23,130 --> 01:15:18,430
that and I've got another okay so this

1365
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:23,140
comes in from Jenny and she wants to

1366
01:15:29,370 --> 01:15:28,090
know if there are the same well it's a

1367
01:15:33,870 --> 01:15:29,380
long question I'm trying to paraphrase

1368
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:33,880
it here if if the Soviets if the

1369
01:15:39,450 --> 01:15:36,370
Russians have the same information that

1370
01:15:44,459 --> 01:15:39,460
we do and are we sharing it with each

1371
01:15:46,020 --> 01:15:44,469
other when it comes to ETS and UFOs well

1372
01:15:47,490 --> 01:15:46,030
I don't think we're sharing it we are

1373
01:15:49,050 --> 01:15:47,500
probably trying to steal their

1374
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:49,060
information and they're probably trying

1375
01:15:55,820 --> 01:15:50,130
to steal

1376
01:16:00,020 --> 01:15:55,830
and that probably applies as much to any

1377
01:16:02,780 --> 01:16:00,030
other subject as as to UFOs now actually

1378
01:16:05,690 --> 01:16:02,790
in we discussed this I think on Tuesday

1379
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:05,700
but in the Declassified British

1380
01:16:10,820 --> 01:16:08,370
intelligence assessment of the UFO

1381
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:10,830
phenomenon project condign there is

1382
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:13,530
actually a very good summary and I'm

1383
01:16:18,170 --> 01:16:15,410
supplying and surprised it got

1384
01:16:19,940 --> 01:16:18,180
Declassified because in a sense it shows

1385
01:16:21,470 --> 01:16:19,950
what we know about them but there's a

1386
01:16:24,380 --> 01:16:21,480
very good summary of what the Russians

1387
01:16:27,950 --> 01:16:24,390
are up to and and it's right there in in

1388
01:16:32,300 --> 01:16:27,960
project condign and what does it say

1389
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:32,310
specifically it just I I don't have it

1390
01:16:36,020 --> 01:16:34,290
in front of me and it runs to several

1391
01:16:38,480 --> 01:16:36,030
pages and I think parts of it are still

1392
01:16:41,810 --> 01:16:38,490
redacted but it it basically gives an

1393
01:16:45,710 --> 01:16:41,820
overview of some of the Soviet programs

1394
01:16:50,440 --> 01:16:45,720
that looked at this and and it does end

1395
01:16:53,750 --> 01:16:50,450
up by saying that the the Soviets did

1396
01:16:56,540 --> 01:16:53,760
take a particular interest in in

1397
01:16:58,970 --> 01:16:56,550
potential military applications of this

1398
01:17:01,130 --> 01:16:58,980
phenomenon it's good again

1399
01:17:03,170 --> 01:17:01,140
shouldn't surprise anyone no not at all

1400
01:17:06,350 --> 01:17:03,180
not at all I would think that whatever's

1401
01:17:08,810 --> 01:17:06,360
going on here goes on globally you know

1402
01:17:11,510 --> 01:17:08,820
there it's it's not a this is not a US

1403
01:17:13,540 --> 01:17:11,520
or British or China it's not anybody's

1404
01:17:17,440 --> 01:17:13,550
this is a planet Earth right and

1405
01:17:20,090 --> 01:17:17,450
absolutely and I think you you were

1406
01:17:23,210 --> 01:17:20,100
referencing the Chinese their absolute

1407
01:17:26,510 --> 01:17:23,220
Chinese will be in this - but of course

1408
01:17:29,030 --> 01:17:26,520
the as with all these situations it's

1409
01:17:30,950 --> 01:17:29,040
it's like a game of cards everyone's at

1410
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:30,960
the table but everyone's being very

1411
01:17:34,610 --> 01:17:33,090
careful not to show their hand let's go

1412
01:17:37,310 --> 01:17:34,620
back to the phones hi your life I'm fade

1413
01:17:39,830 --> 01:17:37,320
to black who's calling Doug from

1414
01:17:42,070 --> 01:17:39,840
Sacramento hi Deb say hi to Nick Pope

1415
01:17:44,420 --> 01:17:42,080
what do you have for Nick hi Nick Pope

1416
01:17:46,790 --> 01:17:44,430
it's good to have you back Nick

1417
01:17:48,140 --> 01:17:46,800
okay the other night you stated and I

1418
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:48,150
hope this isn't too personal a question

1419
01:17:53,810 --> 01:17:50,010
but the other night you stated that you

1420
01:17:55,490 --> 01:17:53,820
were an atheist and I was I was a little

1421
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:55,500
bit curious about that because I would

1422
01:18:00,770 --> 01:17:57,210
assume with all the things you've seen

1423
01:18:02,810 --> 01:18:00,780
and I would suspect it's been extensive

1424
01:18:04,010 --> 01:18:02,820
what what is your definition of an

1425
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:04,020
atheist and what brought

1426
01:18:09,230 --> 01:18:07,410
to that to that conclusion well

1427
01:18:13,580 --> 01:18:09,240
essentially just someone who doesn't

1428
01:18:15,980 --> 01:18:13,590
think there's a God in my research and

1429
01:18:19,330 --> 01:18:15,990
investigation into the UFO phenomenon I

1430
01:18:22,010 --> 01:18:19,340
had to be very careful in making

1431
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:22,020
statements about this that everything we

1432
01:18:29,930 --> 01:18:25,410
came up with could be evidenced by by a

1433
01:18:32,480 --> 01:18:29,940
really solid scientific data so for

1434
01:18:36,230 --> 01:18:32,490
example when I talk about pilots UFO

1435
01:18:39,350 --> 01:18:36,240
sighting we didn't just get the

1436
01:18:42,770 --> 01:18:39,360
testimony from the witness we wanted the

1437
01:18:45,190 --> 01:18:42,780
radar tapes so so it was very much

1438
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:45,200
much I sort of well show me the money

1439
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:47,970
you know let's see let's see the

1440
01:18:55,820 --> 01:18:51,210
evidence on on this and so that's really

1441
01:18:58,520 --> 01:18:55,830
I mean that's where I decouple this

1442
01:19:02,210 --> 01:18:58,530
subject from religion which i think is

1443
01:19:04,790 --> 01:19:02,220
simply a matter of faith now if people

1444
01:19:08,660 --> 01:19:04,800
want to believe that's that's fine but

1445
01:19:11,690 --> 01:19:08,670
but I personally as somebody who who's

1446
01:19:14,060 --> 01:19:11,700
investigated extraordinary phenomena for

1447
01:19:18,350 --> 01:19:14,070
the British government I want more than

1448
01:19:20,480 --> 01:19:18,360
just belief I want something something

1449
01:19:23,150 --> 01:19:20,490
more definitive something that that you

1450
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:23,160
can replicate something that that stands

1451
01:19:30,440 --> 01:19:28,170
up to proper scientific scrutiny I'm

1452
01:19:32,210 --> 01:19:30,450
gonna jump in Deb it's funny that you

1453
01:19:36,380 --> 01:19:32,220
bring that up because there are this

1454
01:19:37,100 --> 01:19:36,390
huge thread popped up on the net it was

1455
01:19:40,220 --> 01:19:37,110
really funny

1456
01:19:43,940 --> 01:19:40,230
it said the the start of the thread was

1457
01:19:46,010 --> 01:19:43,950
did the Pope just say he was an atheist

1458
01:19:50,890 --> 01:19:46,020
right that was that was the start of the

1459
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:50,900
thread and some people heard the show

1460
01:19:55,190 --> 01:19:53,610
some didn't but when you start off the

1461
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:55,200
thread that way it was like when did the

1462
01:19:59,690 --> 01:19:56,850
Pope say this what are you talking about

1463
01:20:02,270 --> 01:19:59,700
and I watched it take a life of its own

1464
01:20:04,130 --> 01:20:02,280
and eventually I just jumped in I said

1465
01:20:08,150 --> 01:20:04,140
well if the Pope said it then it must be

1466
01:20:09,980 --> 01:20:08,160
so right and that it is what

1467
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:09,990
marry dad thank you for the phone call

1468
01:20:15,170 --> 01:20:13,170
to behave yes and thank you Nick I

1469
01:20:15,590 --> 01:20:15,180
appreciate it thank you have a good

1470
01:20:17,480 --> 01:20:15,600
night you guys

1471
01:20:20,780 --> 01:20:17,490
yeah thank you definitely yeah great

1472
01:20:23,570 --> 01:20:20,790
phone call right there let's uh let's uh

1473
01:20:25,550 --> 01:20:23,580
let's take a call from the UK you ready

1474
01:20:27,110 --> 01:20:25,560
oh absolutely

1475
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:27,120
hi you're live on fade to black who's

1476
01:20:37,100 --> 01:20:35,370
calling hello Jaime this is Meghan hi

1477
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:37,110
mica how are you my friend

1478
01:20:45,710 --> 01:20:41,010
I'm good Jimmy I'm doing great

1479
01:20:49,150 --> 01:20:45,720
and Nick this is Mika he is our producer

1480
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:49,160
at large in the UK he's nine years old

1481
01:21:00,710 --> 01:20:55,850
yep well nice to meet you hello

1482
01:21:02,750 --> 01:21:00,720
so Mika have you met Nick before I have

1483
01:21:06,260 --> 01:21:02,760
no I've heard of him

1484
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:06,270
have you seen him on TV no I've seen a

1485
01:21:10,810 --> 01:21:07,290
picture of him

1486
01:21:16,340 --> 01:21:10,820
we've all seen a picture of Nick Pope

1487
01:21:22,220 --> 01:21:16,350
but you know Nick do you watch ancient

1488
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:22,230
aliens okay well he was on the the

1489
01:21:28,310 --> 01:21:25,650
premiere of this season episode one so

1490
01:21:29,990 --> 01:21:28,320
you can go back in and check that out

1491
01:21:35,210 --> 01:21:30,000
but I know that you're a fan of Nick's

1492
01:21:37,070 --> 01:21:35,220
and so say say hello and and the the

1493
01:21:41,210 --> 01:21:37,080
floor is yours Mika what would you like

1494
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:41,220
to ask Nick well I would like to ask him

1495
01:21:48,980 --> 01:21:46,170
have you seen UFO sadly I haven't I've

1496
01:21:52,100 --> 01:21:48,990
investigated hundreds if not thousands

1497
01:21:54,950 --> 01:21:52,110
of other people sightings but I have yet

1498
01:21:59,060 --> 01:21:54,960
to see one myself having said that we

1499
01:22:01,520 --> 01:21:59,070
now live in Tucson Arizona and that's a

1500
01:22:03,500 --> 01:22:01,530
great place for sky watching so if I'm

1501
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:03,510
going to see one that'll be where it

1502
01:22:18,170 --> 01:22:12,410
will happen okay if this know is that

1503
01:22:21,729 --> 01:22:18,180
there a place in the UK like area 51 in

1504
01:22:24,580 --> 01:22:21,739
America not really

1505
01:22:29,250 --> 01:22:24,590
I mean there are various locations where

1506
01:22:32,110 --> 01:22:29,260
the military will test-fly secret

1507
01:22:34,990 --> 01:22:32,120
prototype aircraft and drones that sort

1508
01:22:38,140 --> 01:22:35,000
of thing but the problem is that the UK

1509
01:22:41,440 --> 01:22:38,150
is just too small and and once you start

1510
01:22:43,660 --> 01:22:41,450
flying aircraft at say a thousand miles

1511
01:22:45,610 --> 01:22:43,670
an hour you're across the UK and out

1512
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:45,620
over the sea and in an instant

1513
01:22:51,540 --> 01:22:48,290
so it's just not like the United States

1514
01:22:54,190 --> 01:22:51,550
where you've got these vast areas of

1515
01:22:56,470 --> 01:22:54,200
hundreds of square miles thousands where

1516
01:22:58,959 --> 01:22:56,480
you can you can fly things and no one

1517
01:23:01,750 --> 01:22:58,969
will see you you just don't really get

1518
01:23:03,220 --> 01:23:01,760
that in the UK unfortunately hey Myka

1519
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:03,230
let me jump in I want to ask Nick a

1520
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:07,610
question okay Nick there was I don't

1521
01:23:13,570 --> 01:23:09,530
have the specifics in front of me but

1522
01:23:17,260 --> 01:23:13,580
there was a pretty famous case out of

1523
01:23:21,820 --> 01:23:17,270
the UK where I believe he was a farmer

1524
01:23:25,090 --> 01:23:21,830
or remotely said that the Ministry of

1525
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:25,100
Defence showed up there was a close

1526
01:23:34,090 --> 01:23:27,530
encounter and they maybe even a crash

1527
01:23:37,540 --> 01:23:34,100
craft but he saw the being get taken and

1528
01:23:41,170 --> 01:23:37,550
it was taken to a base and he named the

1529
01:23:43,390 --> 01:23:41,180
base and that what was that case and

1530
01:23:47,290 --> 01:23:43,400
what I think he called that base

1531
01:23:49,590 --> 01:23:47,300
Britain's area 51 well now yes and and

1532
01:23:53,140 --> 01:23:49,600
apologies make it because yes this is

1533
01:23:54,030 --> 01:23:53,150
possibly something which which I have

1534
01:23:58,060 --> 01:23:54,040
heard before

1535
01:24:02,200 --> 01:23:58,070
Ludlow mana is is a location which has

1536
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:02,210
sometimes been called Britain's area 51

1537
01:24:10,690 --> 01:24:06,770
now I don't think it is but that was an

1538
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:10,700
old Royal Air Force Base and there was a

1539
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:13,250
manor house there and under the manor

1540
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:16,370
house there were some tunnels and and it

1541
01:24:21,820 --> 01:24:19,130
led to one of those places where if

1542
01:24:23,709 --> 01:24:21,830
there'd been the danger of nuclear war

1543
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:23,719
they would have evacuated the royal

1544
01:24:29,350 --> 01:24:26,210
family and senior government officials

1545
01:24:31,090 --> 01:24:29,360
and there were rumours that there was a

1546
01:24:34,810 --> 01:24:31,100
UFO crash and that that's where they

1547
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:34,820
took the aliens however I while I've

1548
01:24:38,350 --> 01:24:35,570
heard those

1549
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:38,360
rumors and I think that was I was even

1550
01:24:43,270 --> 01:24:40,970
on an episode of ancient aliens talking

1551
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:43,280
about some of that right I am NOT

1552
01:24:50,470 --> 01:24:47,210
absolutely convinced that that we had an

1553
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:50,480
alien and and if we did that we took

1554
01:24:55,030 --> 01:24:52,850
them down there so I don't know yeah

1555
01:24:56,950 --> 01:24:55,040
it's an interesting story yeah it is

1556
01:25:00,460 --> 01:24:56,960
it's a very interesting story what's the

1557
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:00,470
name of the location again rut low mana

1558
01:25:05,860 --> 01:25:03,530
red low Manor there you go mica okay so

1559
01:25:08,410 --> 01:25:05,870
write it down red low Manor okay

1560
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:08,420
mica what else do you have for Nick this

1561
01:25:13,510 --> 01:25:10,970
is so much fun Nick I'm kind of digging

1562
01:25:15,730 --> 01:25:13,520
this right now nothing yeah

1563
01:25:18,570 --> 01:25:15,740
mica next question see I don't have to

1564
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:18,580
do anything I can just kick back have

1565
01:25:29,980 --> 01:25:25,570
you ever been the area 51 no I haven't I

1566
01:25:34,330 --> 01:25:29,990
have been asked to go for a couple of

1567
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:34,340
television shows but I don't believe in

1568
01:25:39,220 --> 01:25:36,650
causing trouble for the military I'm

1569
01:25:41,740 --> 01:25:39,230
still even though I'm retired from the

1570
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:41,750
Ministry of Defense I don't want to do

1571
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:43,730
something that might be seen as just a

1572
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:48,050
publicity stunt and and create problems

1573
01:25:55,810 --> 01:25:52,130
for the government here in the US where

1574
01:25:58,480 --> 01:25:55,820
I live now so I am quite happy if if

1575
01:26:01,860 --> 01:25:58,490
they invite me I will come but I'm not

1576
01:26:05,170 --> 01:26:01,870
going to turn up and try and sneak in

1577
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:05,180
what Nick what you should do

1578
01:26:10,570 --> 01:26:07,370
why don't you I think that would be

1579
01:26:13,480 --> 01:26:10,580
great for your career Nick Pope arrested

1580
01:26:18,100 --> 01:26:13,490
by the camo dudes and then you could

1581
01:26:20,980 --> 01:26:18,110
kick in your dip diplomatic immunity yes

1582
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:20,990
well I I will leave that for someone

1583
01:26:25,180 --> 01:26:22,850
else all right fair enough

1584
01:26:29,170 --> 01:26:25,190
mica next question do you have a whole

1585
01:26:32,050 --> 01:26:29,180
list of questions mica no okay cuz this

1586
01:26:34,900 --> 01:26:32,060
is these Nick you have to admit Micah's

1587
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:34,910
doing pretty good here oh absolutely on

1588
01:26:37,660 --> 01:26:36,890
the ball now on the ball okay mica

1589
01:26:42,690 --> 01:26:37,670
what's next

1590
01:26:46,090 --> 01:26:42,700
have you heard made before on Jimmy show

1591
01:26:47,860 --> 01:26:46,100
I'm afraid not no but Jimmy said good

1592
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:47,870
things about you when I was on the other

1593
01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:48,530
night

1594
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:50,449
and said that you were very smart for

1595
01:26:58,689 --> 01:26:52,130
your age and had a lot of interesting

1596
01:27:00,209 --> 01:26:58,699
questions keep going Amica what's on

1597
01:27:04,180 --> 01:27:00,219
your mind

1598
01:27:09,069 --> 01:27:04,190
and gray alien access hall

1599
01:27:12,970 --> 01:27:09,079
I don't know I'm one of these people

1600
01:27:15,220 --> 01:27:12,980
that I sometimes think that people in

1601
01:27:17,950 --> 01:27:15,230
the UFO community always very very

1602
01:27:19,569 --> 01:27:17,960
certain about things I've looked at this

1603
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:19,579
for the government and I'm the first

1604
01:27:25,450 --> 01:27:22,130
person to say sometimes I don't know I

1605
01:27:28,149 --> 01:27:25,460
haven't been there I don't have a US

1606
01:27:29,919 --> 01:27:28,159
government security clearance so they

1607
01:27:33,790 --> 01:27:29,929
they just haven't told me if they if

1608
01:27:38,250 --> 01:27:33,800
they do I am NOT briefed in on that

1609
01:27:42,790 --> 01:27:38,260
particular classified program okay

1610
01:27:45,490 --> 01:27:42,800
that's so thank you because you are

1611
01:27:51,069 --> 01:27:45,500
amazing and now you've got you've got

1612
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:51,079
school today right yep oh man well are

1613
01:27:56,010 --> 01:27:53,690
you gonna go back to bed or do you are

1614
01:27:59,770 --> 01:27:56,020
you up now are you up for the day

1615
01:28:04,060 --> 01:27:59,780
normally I'm up for the day know what

1616
01:28:08,859 --> 01:28:04,070
what day does your UFO group meet at

1617
01:28:11,950 --> 01:28:08,869
school Monday Wednesdays and Fridays so

1618
01:28:15,879 --> 01:28:11,960
that means today your UFO group is

1619
01:28:17,229 --> 01:28:15,889
meeting and getting together and what

1620
01:28:20,109 --> 01:28:17,239
are you guys gonna talk about today

1621
01:28:23,379 --> 01:28:20,119
certainly you are gonna go to everybody

1622
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:23,389
and say today I got to speak to Nick

1623
01:28:27,430 --> 01:28:25,130
Pope and they're not gonna believe you

1624
01:28:29,890 --> 01:28:27,440
so you can play back the show form that

1625
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:29,900
that's fine but what are you guys going

1626
01:28:36,250 --> 01:28:34,010
to talk about today normally obviously

1627
01:28:39,939 --> 01:28:36,260
gonna talk about all they know at the

1628
01:28:44,109 --> 01:28:39,949
moment because I don't think they really

1629
01:28:48,580 --> 01:28:44,119
know and I have been helping them by

1630
01:28:50,740 --> 01:28:48,590
saying just search up area 51 and all of

1631
01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:50,750
that and then they'll probably come back

1632
01:28:55,660 --> 01:28:53,449
knowing stuff like me well you know

1633
01:29:00,040 --> 01:28:55,670
what's interesting for me and I know

1634
01:29:03,150 --> 01:29:00,050
Nick is listening to you right now your

1635
01:29:06,630 --> 01:29:03,160
interest in area 51

1636
01:29:09,450 --> 01:29:06,640
and I understand that but for you what

1637
01:29:11,610 --> 01:29:09,460
is it about area 51 is it because it's

1638
01:29:13,710 --> 01:29:11,620
in the United States it's so secret it's

1639
01:29:17,250 --> 01:29:13,720
been in a couple of movies you're over

1640
01:29:18,500 --> 01:29:17,260
there in the UK or or you know why area

1641
01:29:23,010 --> 01:29:18,510
51

1642
01:29:26,940 --> 01:29:23,020
well because everybody's been trying to

1643
01:29:30,450 --> 01:29:26,950
get in there to find out if s4 has UFOs

1644
01:29:33,210 --> 01:29:30,460
and gray aliens but if you ask me

1645
01:29:38,010 --> 01:29:33,220
everyone thinks there's nothing kin

1646
01:29:41,220 --> 01:29:38,020
there but as like me I know

1647
01:29:44,550 --> 01:29:41,230
definitely there's UFOs and gray alien

1648
01:29:46,950 --> 01:29:44,560
because I can you can remember that time

1649
01:29:49,290 --> 01:29:46,960
when I told you that shooting star went

1650
01:29:52,140 --> 01:29:49,300
across that well it was too far for

1651
01:29:56,490 --> 01:29:52,150
shooting start and to slow a little bit

1652
01:29:59,280 --> 01:29:56,500
so I would say it would definitely be a

1653
01:30:02,250 --> 01:29:59,290
UFO and all them lights turned on on the

1654
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:02,260
runway and even the secret runway turned

1655
01:30:08,070 --> 01:30:04,810
on and light and then they all turned

1656
01:30:11,310 --> 01:30:08,080
off and nothing happened well what do

1657
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:11,320
you think about me Nick isn't this great

1658
01:30:18,410 --> 01:30:15,010
it's just amazing for me Myka what do

1659
01:30:28,650 --> 01:30:26,940
Iko have you gone back Myka and

1660
01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:28,660
certainly your parents can help you do

1661
01:30:35,250 --> 01:30:32,290
this but if you got back and watched the

1662
01:30:40,410 --> 01:30:35,260
the Bob Lazar interviews that were done

1663
01:30:42,090 --> 01:30:40,420
in the early 90s about s4 yeah and and

1664
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:42,100
what do you think do you think he's a

1665
01:30:50,970 --> 01:30:48,730
believable guy why do you I do by the

1666
01:30:54,060 --> 01:30:50,980
way I do Nick what do you think about

1667
01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:54,070
Bob Lazar and enigma I understand but

1668
01:30:59,910 --> 01:30:56,130
what do you think about Bob today I

1669
01:31:02,580 --> 01:30:59,920
don't know I again I haven't met him I

1670
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:02,590
don't think I've met him I've met a lot

1671
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:05,290
of people over the years but I'm sure I

1672
01:31:09,870 --> 01:31:08,050
would probably remember that and you

1673
01:31:12,390 --> 01:31:09,880
know I I just don't like to speculate

1674
01:31:14,370 --> 01:31:12,400
too much when I haven't actually sat

1675
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:14,380
down opposite someone looked into their

1676
01:31:18,660 --> 01:31:15,489
eyes and her

1677
01:31:21,810 --> 01:31:18,670
their story firsthand in the

1678
01:31:25,709 --> 01:31:21,820
intelligence analysis community there's

1679
01:31:28,919 --> 01:31:25,719
an old saying interesting if true and I

1680
01:31:31,169 --> 01:31:28,929
often trot that out as as really the

1681
01:31:33,569 --> 01:31:31,179
only answer that you can give to an

1682
01:31:36,060 --> 01:31:33,579
awful lot of this this material and so

1683
01:31:40,229 --> 01:31:36,070
my take on Bob Lazar and his claims

1684
01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:40,239
interesting if true Meeker anything else

1685
01:31:48,810 --> 01:31:43,690
for for mr. Pope before I send you off

1686
01:31:51,870 --> 01:31:48,820
to school no make a you have you have a

1687
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:51,880
great night and a great day at school

1688
01:31:57,239 --> 01:31:55,210
and and and tell everybody in your UFO

1689
01:31:58,109 --> 01:31:57,249
Club that Nick and I said hello will you

1690
01:32:02,759 --> 01:31:58,119
do that for us

1691
01:32:06,149 --> 01:32:02,769
yes thank you Myka bye-bye

1692
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:06,159
night that what does that right there

1693
01:32:11,759 --> 01:32:09,010
that phone call what does that tell you

1694
01:32:14,009 --> 01:32:11,769
about our UFO community you know he's

1695
01:32:17,220 --> 01:32:14,019
nine years old he's on top of his game

1696
01:32:25,549 --> 01:32:17,230
well it tells me he's up at 4:30 in the

1697
01:32:29,729 --> 01:32:25,559
morning you know I'd like to think that

1698
01:32:31,379 --> 01:32:29,739
when you go to again everybody three two

1699
01:32:33,419 --> 01:32:31,389
three eight to five five zero four or

1700
01:32:35,790 --> 01:32:33,429
five I'm only using one foam Bank

1701
01:32:38,939 --> 01:32:35,800
tonight I'm watching the other foam Bank

1702
01:32:40,439 --> 01:32:38,949
light up don't use that one just three

1703
01:32:43,259 --> 01:32:40,449
two three eight two five five zero four

1704
01:32:47,850 --> 01:32:43,269
or five you've you've been going to

1705
01:32:50,729 --> 01:32:47,860
conferences for quite a long time and I

1706
01:32:53,339 --> 01:32:50,739
see the changes Nick at these

1707
01:32:57,479 --> 01:32:53,349
conferences we have all generations

1708
01:33:00,089 --> 01:32:57,489
represented now it didn't use to be that

1709
01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:00,099
and that was a complaint that went

1710
01:33:04,859 --> 01:33:02,050
around it was like you know the younger

1711
01:33:07,529 --> 01:33:04,869
generation isn't here it's just but it

1712
01:33:10,379 --> 01:33:07,539
seems to be changing now and you listen

1713
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:10,389
to somebody like Nick you listen to

1714
01:33:14,790 --> 01:33:13,210
somebody like mica and you have to think

1715
01:33:17,609 --> 01:33:14,800
that we're in pretty good hands do you

1716
01:33:20,459 --> 01:33:17,619
see the same the same changes at

1717
01:33:23,069 --> 01:33:20,469
conferences now where it is all

1718
01:33:26,430 --> 01:33:23,079
generations of young and old or are

1719
01:33:28,890 --> 01:33:26,440
there not as much as it could be or

1720
01:33:29,320 --> 01:33:28,900
should be I mean it is changing and

1721
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:29,330
there

1722
01:33:36,460 --> 01:33:33,890
some conferences where you do get more

1723
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:36,470
young people I mean that the one last

1724
01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:39,530
year that stood out in my mind was alien

1725
01:33:44,340 --> 01:33:42,170
corn and and I think the reason they did

1726
01:33:47,590 --> 01:33:44,350
that was that they actually blended

1727
01:33:49,780 --> 01:33:47,600
science fiction with ufology which I

1728
01:33:54,100 --> 01:33:49,790
know is controversial with some people

1729
01:33:57,340 --> 01:33:54,110
but they did that and they have cosplay

1730
01:33:59,260 --> 01:33:57,350
too and that the view was well let's

1731
01:34:01,600 --> 01:33:59,270
have some fun with this as well as the

1732
01:34:03,460 --> 01:34:01,610
serious stuff let's do it in parallel so

1733
01:34:08,590 --> 01:34:03,470
I think we're gonna see that sort of

1734
01:34:11,500 --> 01:34:08,600
thing at alien Con this year I think

1735
01:34:14,140 --> 01:34:11,510
that we might see it contact in the

1736
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:14,150
desert of course which is is just coming

1737
01:34:17,740 --> 01:34:16,010
up I'll be very interested to see I'm

1738
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:17,750
keeping my fingers crossed that we get a

1739
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:21,890
lot of young people there it's not

1740
01:34:27,940 --> 01:34:24,650
changing as quickly as it it might I

1741
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:27,950
have to say maybe I'm not quite as

1742
01:34:32,710 --> 01:34:30,890
optimistic as as you on on this I think

1743
01:34:35,620 --> 01:34:32,720
the jury is still out on this one

1744
01:34:39,940 --> 01:34:35,630
well the reason why I bring it up like I

1745
01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:39,950
do I know the the phone calls that I get

1746
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:41,570
here the interaction that I get from

1747
01:34:50,350 --> 01:34:44,570
this audience and also on coast-to-coast

1748
01:34:53,890 --> 01:34:50,360
too as well but I I would say that it's

1749
01:34:57,490 --> 01:34:53,900
about even in other words before I say

1750
01:34:59,200 --> 01:34:57,500
you know we get more younger phone calls

1751
01:35:02,470 --> 01:34:59,210
here than we do all that that wouldn't

1752
01:35:04,300 --> 01:35:02,480
be true or you know a my age group or so

1753
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:04,310
forth I don't think that's true it's

1754
01:35:09,580 --> 01:35:07,610
it's well represented across the board

1755
01:35:11,620 --> 01:35:09,590
and when we get the fainter knots

1756
01:35:13,270 --> 01:35:11,630
together and you're walking around these

1757
01:35:15,340 --> 01:35:13,280
conferences and you see all the fade to

1758
01:35:17,590 --> 01:35:15,350
black shirts well I'll look at the shirt

1759
01:35:20,440 --> 01:35:17,600
first that'll catch my eye and then I

1760
01:35:25,750 --> 01:35:20,450
look to see who's wearing it and it

1761
01:35:28,810 --> 01:35:25,760
could be any age group I would think

1762
01:35:31,030 --> 01:35:28,820
that the fade to black shirts are for a

1763
01:35:36,910 --> 01:35:31,040
younger audience the other they're

1764
01:35:39,910 --> 01:35:36,920
pretty rowdy but I see I see it across

1765
01:35:43,029 --> 01:35:39,920
the board and I'm okay with that you

1766
01:35:45,279 --> 01:35:43,039
know I want to know that you and I may

1767
01:35:47,799 --> 01:35:45,289
we're about the same age and we're not

1768
01:35:49,959 --> 01:35:47,809
gonna be on this planet forever and for

1769
01:35:52,990 --> 01:35:49,969
what you do and for what I do and others

1770
01:35:57,339 --> 01:35:53,000
that you know I want to know that this

1771
01:36:00,669 --> 01:35:57,349
this road to disclosure and discovery

1772
01:36:03,009 --> 01:36:00,679
and knowledge in research continues and

1773
01:36:06,009 --> 01:36:03,019
and that we are represented but I think

1774
01:36:10,029 --> 01:36:06,019
that the younger groups out there I

1775
01:36:12,970 --> 01:36:10,039
don't think that they are going to be

1776
01:36:15,189 --> 01:36:12,980
shocked or surprised I think that the

1777
01:36:19,259 --> 01:36:15,199
older you know with disclosure I think

1778
01:36:21,939 --> 01:36:19,269
the older generation would be more into

1779
01:36:23,879 --> 01:36:21,949
getting freaked out about it I think the

1780
01:36:27,549 --> 01:36:23,889
younger generation like Mika is

1781
01:36:29,049 --> 01:36:27,559
expecting contact and they are okay with

1782
01:36:31,089 --> 01:36:29,059
it what do you think about that oh I

1783
01:36:33,100 --> 01:36:31,099
absolutely agree with that I think it

1784
01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:33,110
goes back to the old saying that you

1785
01:36:38,020 --> 01:36:36,050
don't shock people by telling them

1786
01:36:40,779 --> 01:36:38,030
something revealing something that they

1787
01:36:42,790 --> 01:36:40,789
already believe and yes absolutely the

1788
01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:42,800
young people whether it's through

1789
01:36:49,390 --> 01:36:46,010
science fiction or video games or TV

1790
01:36:54,370 --> 01:36:49,400
shows whatever it is I think everyone

1791
01:36:56,770 --> 01:36:54,380
now is pretty much fully on board with

1792
01:37:00,790 --> 01:36:56,780
the idea and and if if the president

1793
01:37:03,189 --> 01:37:00,800
went on TV you know tomorrow night and

1794
01:37:05,709 --> 01:37:03,199
said there are aliens everyone would

1795
01:37:08,740 --> 01:37:05,719
just say yeah so what and you know we

1796
01:37:10,899 --> 01:37:08,750
always figured it was probably true yeah

1797
01:37:13,029 --> 01:37:10,909
you know what yeah do you think it would

1798
01:37:15,180 --> 01:37:13,039
be the same in the UK that kind of

1799
01:37:19,450 --> 01:37:15,190
reaction as here in the United States

1800
01:37:21,189 --> 01:37:19,460
yes I think so I think so and maybe it's

1801
01:37:23,259 --> 01:37:21,199
a generational thing but I am I'm a

1802
01:37:26,379 --> 01:37:23,269
little bit more optimistic I think even

1803
01:37:29,620 --> 01:37:26,389
the older people would probably be fine

1804
01:37:33,339 --> 01:37:29,630
with it now I really don't think that we

1805
01:37:35,979 --> 01:37:33,349
are any longer in the era if indeed we

1806
01:37:36,700 --> 01:37:35,989
ever were of panic in the streets run

1807
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:36,710
for the hills

1808
01:37:44,750 --> 01:37:40,970
yeah I've you know I've often said if

1809
01:37:47,930 --> 01:37:44,760
you're in Tucson right okay so over in

1810
01:37:49,790 --> 01:37:47,940
Tucson you know the 10 freeway right

1811
01:37:53,810 --> 01:37:49,800
it's right there the 10 freeway going up

1812
01:37:56,630 --> 01:37:53,820
to Phoenix and if if the UFO came down

1813
01:37:58,820 --> 01:37:56,640
and blocked the 10 freeway and blocked

1814
01:38:02,360 --> 01:37:58,830
traffic you would have about 10 minutes

1815
01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:02,370
of people in amazement but after that

1816
01:38:06,470 --> 01:38:04,530
you're gonna have people getting out of

1817
01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:06,480
their cars going get this thing off of

1818
01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:10,890
the freeway we've got places to go and I

1819
01:38:15,230 --> 01:38:13,170
think it would be like that I really do

1820
01:38:16,370 --> 01:38:15,240
let's let's go back to the phones hi

1821
01:38:17,500 --> 01:38:16,380
you're live on fade to black who's

1822
01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:17,510
calling

1823
01:38:24,410 --> 01:38:20,370
Scott how are you hi Scott say hi to

1824
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:24,420
Nick hi Nick how are you sir fine thank

1825
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:24,810
you

1826
01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:27,690
I have to admit I'm the guy that started

1827
01:38:33,530 --> 01:38:29,730
the Pope thing to say oh that was you

1828
01:38:36,020 --> 01:38:33,540
okay all right fair enough fair enough

1829
01:38:39,440 --> 01:38:36,030
yeah what do you have for Nick I have a

1830
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:39,450
fair question for you and Nick you said

1831
01:38:43,010 --> 01:38:41,610
you're naked and I can understand

1832
01:38:45,440 --> 01:38:43,020
everybody has their own opinions on what

1833
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:45,450
goes around in this world but let me ask

1834
01:38:49,430 --> 01:38:46,290
you something

1835
01:39:03,760 --> 01:38:49,440
the human anatomy what do you think had

1836
01:39:10,130 --> 01:39:07,270
okay Scott where are you going with this

1837
01:39:11,950 --> 01:39:10,140
believe me I love the question by the

1838
01:39:14,510 --> 01:39:11,960
way where are you going with this

1839
01:39:16,790 --> 01:39:14,520
well well I don't mean to offend anybody

1840
01:39:19,850 --> 01:39:16,800
but everything has to start from

1841
01:39:23,540 --> 01:39:19,860
somewhere the flesh comes from somewhere

1842
01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:23,550
it just doesn't pop out of thin air even

1843
01:39:31,430 --> 01:39:25,770
if it's evolution where did evolution

1844
01:39:33,470 --> 01:39:31,440
start asking Nick okay Nick I you know

1845
01:39:35,540 --> 01:39:33,480
what the atheists in you Nick

1846
01:39:37,550 --> 01:39:35,550
I would love to hear this answer go

1847
01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:37,560
ahead well I don't think there are

1848
01:39:42,830 --> 01:39:39,810
answers and I think even science says

1849
01:39:45,500 --> 01:39:42,840
that we don't yet fully understand the

1850
01:39:48,520 --> 01:39:45,510
mechanism and process by which life

1851
01:39:51,710 --> 01:39:48,530
first arose any more than we really

1852
01:39:54,649 --> 01:39:51,720
understand how the universe was created

1853
01:39:57,620 --> 01:39:54,659
people talk obviously about the

1854
01:40:01,159 --> 01:39:57,630
big bang and then people say almost as a

1855
01:40:04,100 --> 01:40:01,169
philosophical point but what came before

1856
01:40:06,799 --> 01:40:04,110
the Big Bang but if the Big Bang was the

1857
01:40:10,219 --> 01:40:06,809
point at which not just space but time

1858
01:40:15,799 --> 01:40:10,229
came into existence then even the word

1859
01:40:19,549 --> 01:40:15,809
before is meaningless and I don't have

1860
01:40:21,409 --> 01:40:19,559
answers for this and and the brightest

1861
01:40:23,509 --> 01:40:21,419
theoretical physicists in the world

1862
01:40:25,819 --> 01:40:23,519
don't but none of that means that we

1863
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:25,829
won't figure out a grand theory of

1864
01:40:31,250 --> 01:40:29,010
everything in a few years time after all

1865
01:40:33,859 --> 01:40:31,260
I think history shows that our

1866
01:40:37,580 --> 01:40:33,869
understanding of the universe and of

1867
01:40:40,699 --> 01:40:37,590
science and the laws of physics changes

1868
01:40:43,939 --> 01:40:40,709
over time and we we just find out more

1869
01:40:46,069 --> 01:40:43,949
and more stuff there you go Scott and

1870
01:40:48,439 --> 01:40:46,079
see the thing is how if you did ask me

1871
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:48,449
that question I would have said ok ask

1872
01:40:55,689 --> 01:40:50,010
me the same question I'll give you my

1873
01:40:58,370 --> 01:40:55,699
answer I'll give you my answer

1874
01:41:00,909 --> 01:40:58,380
what are your answer no ask me the

1875
01:41:02,959 --> 01:41:00,919
question we got to have dramatic effect

1876
01:41:08,419 --> 01:41:02,969
the dramatic effect

1877
01:41:13,069 --> 01:41:08,429
well it's evolution but what you saying

1878
01:41:15,310 --> 01:41:13,079
is true then I I just can't believe that

1879
01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:15,320
would be in effect I really don't Jimmy

1880
01:41:24,649 --> 01:41:22,050
ok the question was where did evolution

1881
01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:24,659
come from where did it get it started

1882
01:41:33,620 --> 01:41:28,050
right ok so here's the answer the same

1883
01:41:37,359 --> 01:41:33,630
20 amino acids on every planet in in the

1884
01:41:41,419 --> 01:41:37,369
universe that's where it came from so

1885
01:41:45,259 --> 01:41:41,429
all of us have the same base and it

1886
01:41:49,459 --> 01:41:45,269
doesn't matter if it's a worm if it's a

1887
01:41:52,189 --> 01:41:49,469
fly if it's if it's Nick Pope if it's me

1888
01:41:54,679 --> 01:41:52,199
if it's you it doesn't matter well

1889
01:41:57,529 --> 01:41:54,689
somebody started it yeah you know

1890
01:42:04,549 --> 01:41:57,539
probably a lightning strike on a crystal

1891
01:42:06,680 --> 01:42:04,559
in a lake now am i right it's magic as

1892
01:42:10,550 --> 01:42:06,690
far as that goes the

1893
01:42:13,940 --> 01:42:10,560
combination of of those different amino

1894
01:42:16,310 --> 01:42:13,950
acids and the creation of DNA and and

1895
01:42:20,450 --> 01:42:16,320
and how this happened so that's the

1896
01:42:22,430 --> 01:42:20,460
Richard Dawkins answer and that's that's

1897
01:42:25,100 --> 01:42:22,440
where he comes from and there is a

1898
01:42:27,950 --> 01:42:25,110
certain amount of sense to that that you

1899
01:42:30,350 --> 01:42:27,960
can't argue me I take it from another

1900
01:42:32,900 --> 01:42:30,360
thing and Nick and I talked about this

1901
01:42:34,970 --> 01:42:32,910
the other night I think there's

1902
01:42:36,920 --> 01:42:34,980
something out there very smart and very

1903
01:42:40,370 --> 01:42:36,930
intelligent that has been around for

1904
01:42:42,290 --> 01:42:40,380
ever since before the our universe and

1905
01:42:45,650 --> 01:42:42,300
was out there creating other universes

1906
01:42:48,350 --> 01:42:45,660
and it's gotten really really smart over

1907
01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:48,360
hundreds of billions of years not just

1908
01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:53,730
15 billion years and life is is is

1909
01:42:57,290 --> 01:42:55,650
created all the time and they have fun

1910
01:43:00,770 --> 01:42:57,300
with it because they're really smart and

1911
01:43:06,650 --> 01:43:00,780
it's it's beyond our intelligence now is

1912
01:43:09,680 --> 01:43:06,660
that God I don't know you know I I agree

1913
01:43:12,260 --> 01:43:09,690
but there's some sort of creation that

1914
01:43:15,170 --> 01:43:12,270
is creating all this and it goes back to

1915
01:43:19,760 --> 01:43:15,180
something well human minds can't

1916
01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:19,770
understand that and I did it who created

1917
01:43:31,670 --> 01:43:28,410
who created God right and so that's

1918
01:43:34,850 --> 01:43:31,680
where Nick comes in and says see I'm

1919
01:43:37,370 --> 01:43:34,860
right you can say it now Nick well no I

1920
01:43:38,900 --> 01:43:37,380
I'm a first one to admit that I don't

1921
01:43:40,910 --> 01:43:38,910
have all the answers but here's an

1922
01:43:44,090 --> 01:43:40,920
interesting philosophical point and I

1923
01:43:46,640 --> 01:43:44,100
think it was pretty much the the point

1924
01:43:49,610 --> 01:43:46,650
that you just made but let's suppose one

1925
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:49,620
day and and people have tried to do this

1926
01:43:56,570 --> 01:43:52,410
but let's suppose one day that we do

1927
01:44:00,050 --> 01:43:56,580
create life ourselves in a test tube or

1928
01:44:01,970 --> 01:44:00,060
maybe artificial intelligence a machine

1929
01:44:05,330 --> 01:44:01,980
that becomes self-aware

1930
01:44:07,880 --> 01:44:05,340
now we created that life but does that

1931
01:44:10,580 --> 01:44:07,890
make us a creator with a capital C I

1932
01:44:12,710 --> 01:44:10,590
would just I would say no I would just

1933
01:44:15,860 --> 01:44:12,720
say that it won't last being smart and

1934
01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:15,870
doing staff it's not going to create a

1935
01:44:23,630 --> 01:44:20,250
song well okay so so sky do you have to

1936
01:44:27,230 --> 01:44:23,640
then I'll pose this to Nick and even

1937
01:44:31,780 --> 01:44:27,240
Scott you can jump in but Nick of going

1938
01:44:36,430 --> 01:44:31,790
back to the ancient aliens theory do you

1939
01:44:41,930 --> 01:44:36,440
do postulate that UFOs and aliens were

1940
01:44:47,020 --> 01:44:41,940
confused with gods in history I don't

1941
01:44:50,660 --> 01:44:47,030
necessarily think that I mean I I do not

1942
01:44:53,090 --> 01:44:50,670
100% sure know that we've ever been

1943
01:44:55,910 --> 01:44:53,100
visited I mean I I simply don't know I'm

1944
01:44:57,770 --> 01:44:55,920
as I've said before we don't in the

1945
01:44:59,870 --> 01:44:57,780
British government we don't have a

1946
01:45:04,070 --> 01:44:59,880
spaceship hidden away in an Air Force

1947
01:45:08,300 --> 01:45:04,080
hangar somewhere but if we have been

1948
01:45:11,510 --> 01:45:08,310
visited I can see how entities arriving

1949
01:45:14,750 --> 01:45:11,520
from the sky might have been worshiped

1950
01:45:16,490 --> 01:45:14,760
and regarded as gods and I think correct

1951
01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:16,500
me if I'm wrong I might have made this

1952
01:45:22,550 --> 01:45:19,170
point on the show on Tuesday night I

1953
01:45:24,860 --> 01:45:22,560
think I discussed the classic arthur c

1954
01:45:27,670 --> 01:45:24,870
clarke quote that any sufficiently

1955
01:45:32,300 --> 01:45:27,680
advanced technology is indistinguishable

1956
01:45:35,870 --> 01:45:32,310
from magic but true i take that a step

1957
01:45:38,200 --> 01:45:35,880
further and say any sufficiently

1958
01:45:41,720 --> 01:45:38,210
advanced civilization is

1959
01:45:44,450 --> 01:45:41,730
indistinguishable from God right I mean

1960
01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:44,460
what if as I say what if we what if a

1961
01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:46,530
theoretical what if a theoretical

1962
01:45:55,490 --> 01:45:49,650
physicist at a place like the Large

1963
01:45:57,020 --> 01:45:55,500
Hadron Collider creates a universe in

1964
01:45:59,420 --> 01:45:57,030
that particle accelerator

1965
01:46:01,910 --> 01:45:59,430
what if someone creates life in a test

1966
01:46:05,510 --> 01:46:01,920
tube what if we build a machine so

1967
01:46:08,450 --> 01:46:05,520
powerful it becomes self-aware and as

1968
01:46:11,480 --> 01:46:08,460
for a soul well you know I I don't know

1969
01:46:13,790 --> 01:46:11,490
that there is such a thing we we regard

1970
01:46:17,300 --> 01:46:13,800
ourselves as self-aware and and

1971
01:46:21,500 --> 01:46:17,310
conscious but you know debates about the

1972
01:46:23,120 --> 01:46:21,510
the split between brain and mind have

1973
01:46:28,280 --> 01:46:23,130
been going on almost since the dawn of

1974
01:46:31,210 --> 01:46:28,290
time well what are you when you what

1975
01:46:35,740 --> 01:46:31,220
what's your opinion then

1976
01:46:39,460 --> 01:46:35,750
when we die do we just achieve our part

1977
01:46:46,360 --> 01:46:39,470
of evolution and just turn into dirt yep

1978
01:46:48,490 --> 01:46:46,370
that's it most of it yeah and that is

1979
01:46:50,920 --> 01:46:48,500
where I disagree I think the soul lives

1980
01:46:53,440 --> 01:46:50,930
on into a different attorney maybe a

1981
01:46:55,060 --> 01:46:53,450
different dimension and if you didn't do

1982
01:46:56,590 --> 01:46:55,070
your right justices here on earth I

1983
01:46:59,920 --> 01:46:56,600
think it comes back to you learn your

1984
01:47:02,860 --> 01:46:59,930
lesson yeah I hope you're right yeah

1985
01:47:05,530 --> 01:47:02,870
hope you're right I really do but see

1986
01:47:08,410 --> 01:47:05,540
this is this is what's great about the

1987
01:47:11,250 --> 01:47:08,420
both of you and myself that's why God

1988
01:47:13,690 --> 01:47:11,260
invented vanilla and chocolate ice cream

1989
01:47:15,550 --> 01:47:13,700
so we can all have choices

1990
01:47:21,130 --> 01:47:15,560
hey Scott enjoy the rest of your night

1991
01:47:25,210 --> 01:47:21,140
my friend thank you so much yeah you too

1992
01:47:28,300 --> 01:47:25,220
yeah thank you so but Nick but this just

1993
01:47:30,280 --> 01:47:28,310
shows you this just shows you why this

1994
01:47:32,620 --> 01:47:30,290
workshop that I'm going to be doing it

1995
01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:32,630
contact in the desert is I think going

1996
01:47:38,680 --> 01:47:36,170
to be a little bit lively yes it is and

1997
01:47:42,100 --> 01:47:38,690
and I enjoy these conversations because

1998
01:47:44,830 --> 01:47:42,110
for me I'm in the middle I don't know

1999
01:47:48,130 --> 01:47:44,840
which way I would fall on this fence

2000
01:47:51,970 --> 01:47:48,140
right and and I enjoy these

2001
01:47:54,640 --> 01:47:51,980
conversations but let me ask you when we

2002
01:47:57,190 --> 01:47:54,650
have those out there and some are

2003
01:48:02,590 --> 01:47:57,200
friends of ours and yours that have had

2004
01:48:07,630 --> 01:48:02,600
near-death experiences that were or have

2005
01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:07,640
died died died dead died and and have

2006
01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:11,570
been brought back to life and they share

2007
01:48:18,010 --> 01:48:15,050
these experiences what do you think's

2008
01:48:22,230 --> 01:48:18,020
going on there I mean that those that's

2009
01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:22,240
a real experience probably some sort of

2010
01:48:33,700 --> 01:48:27,530
vivid hallucination in an oxygen starved

2011
01:48:37,560 --> 01:48:33,710
brain that okay if that lasts for 30

2012
01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:37,570
minutes then kind of takes its fuel from

2013
01:48:44,530 --> 01:48:41,770
from the particular individuals cultural

2014
01:48:48,340 --> 01:48:44,540
background right their belief system

2015
01:48:52,450 --> 01:48:48,350
great etc so it doesn't surprise me that

2016
01:48:56,110 --> 01:48:52,460
people who say you know are critically

2017
01:48:59,950 --> 01:48:56,120
ill you know perhaps through some

2018
01:49:04,060 --> 01:48:59,960
combination of oxygen deprivation and

2019
01:49:12,040 --> 01:49:04,070
and drugs and wishful thinking see a

2020
01:49:20,080 --> 01:49:12,050
light the the the adrenaline rush at the

2021
01:49:22,990 --> 01:49:20,090
moment of dying would probably be so

2022
01:49:25,090 --> 01:49:23,000
extreme right as far as what you're

2023
01:49:27,550 --> 01:49:25,100
talking about here a hallucination or

2024
01:49:29,230 --> 01:49:27,560
something but because it would be like

2025
01:49:31,690 --> 01:49:29,240
an electrical shock like you've never

2026
01:49:34,360 --> 01:49:31,700
had in your life and that could

2027
01:49:36,580 --> 01:49:34,370
definitely constitute some pretty crazy

2028
01:49:39,040 --> 01:49:36,590
visions because we've all had them right

2029
01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:39,050
right before a car accident or before

2030
01:49:44,230 --> 01:49:41,570
you fall or trip or fall down a hill or

2031
01:49:47,440 --> 01:49:44,240
whatever it is when something extreme

2032
01:49:50,950 --> 01:49:47,450
happens you have that adrenaline rush

2033
01:49:53,650 --> 01:49:50,960
that and that would kick off maybe the

2034
01:49:57,820 --> 01:49:53,660
pineal gland or other things and and

2035
01:50:00,460 --> 01:49:57,830
unlock these vivid imagination memories

2036
01:50:04,150 --> 01:50:00,470
that you've had over the years and that

2037
01:50:06,790 --> 01:50:04,160
could be this life's review that

2038
01:50:08,770 --> 01:50:06,800
everybody talks about and and these

2039
01:50:13,990 --> 01:50:08,780
memories are released all at one time

2040
01:50:16,660 --> 01:50:14,000
you think that could be the this you

2041
01:50:18,790 --> 01:50:16,670
know this vision it could it could well

2042
01:50:21,730 --> 01:50:18,800
be I mean my goodness we don't really

2043
01:50:24,100 --> 01:50:21,740
even understand you know the the

2044
01:50:26,410 --> 01:50:24,110
dreaming state right we know that when

2045
01:50:30,160 --> 01:50:26,420
we dream for example our perception of

2046
01:50:32,680 --> 01:50:30,170
time is skewed and that a dream that you

2047
01:50:37,150 --> 01:50:32,690
have in in just a few moments of napping

2048
01:50:39,640 --> 01:50:37,160
can seem to last a long time and to to

2049
01:50:43,150 --> 01:50:39,650
encompass a really complex structured

2050
01:50:45,400 --> 01:50:43,160
narrative now I I'm gonna get back to

2051
01:50:47,620 --> 01:50:45,410
the phones but you just went up a notch

2052
01:50:49,330 --> 01:50:47,630
you've always been interesting but this

2053
01:50:51,220 --> 01:50:49,340
really got interesting to go back to the

2054
01:50:57,280 --> 01:50:51,230
phones I you live on fade to black sad

2055
01:50:58,150 --> 01:50:57,290
and Nick Pope hello Nick Pope nah I got

2056
01:51:01,210 --> 01:50:58,160
a two-part

2057
01:51:04,030 --> 01:51:01,220
for you first you have to statue you

2058
01:51:06,370 --> 01:51:04,040
have to state your name oh this is Eric

2059
01:51:08,770 --> 01:51:06,380
your waiting man hi Eric the awakening

2060
01:51:11,470 --> 01:51:08,780
man okay what do you have for Nick I'm

2061
01:51:13,900 --> 01:51:11,480
taking the flip side of Scott's question

2062
01:51:15,820 --> 01:51:13,910
in the sense that I'm gonna assume and

2063
01:51:18,010 --> 01:51:15,830
if correct me if I'm wrong mr. Pope it

2064
01:51:20,200 --> 01:51:18,020
yeah in all likelihood you probably

2065
01:51:22,540 --> 01:51:20,210
believe or you accept the possibility

2066
01:51:25,590 --> 01:51:22,550
that we are being visited by non-human

2067
01:51:28,870 --> 01:51:25,600
entities is that a fair assumption I

2068
01:51:31,540 --> 01:51:28,880
certainly think that it's quite likely

2069
01:51:33,310 --> 01:51:31,550
that there's life elsewhere in the

2070
01:51:35,800 --> 01:51:33,320
universe because in a sense I don't

2071
01:51:38,830 --> 01:51:35,810
think there's anything magical and

2072
01:51:41,050 --> 01:51:38,840
unique about planet Earth I think I

2073
01:51:43,350 --> 01:51:41,060
think we will find that the standard

2074
01:51:45,670 --> 01:51:43,360
what is it that the copper nishan

2075
01:51:48,850 --> 01:51:45,680
principle applies that we're probably

2076
01:51:51,730 --> 01:51:48,860
just a fairly average boring somewhere

2077
01:51:54,400 --> 01:51:51,740
in the middle planet and therefore what

2078
01:51:56,290 --> 01:51:54,410
happens here I don't see any reason why

2079
01:51:57,880 --> 01:51:56,300
it shouldn't happen elsewhere in the

2080
01:51:59,590 --> 01:51:57,890
universe as to whether we're being

2081
01:52:01,950 --> 01:51:59,600
visited or not I don't know but I

2082
01:52:04,060 --> 01:52:01,960
certainly don't rule it out

2083
01:52:07,630 --> 01:52:04,070
okay I'm parked to thank you for that

2084
01:52:09,790 --> 01:52:07,640
part - is this is that you know I don't

2085
01:52:12,160 --> 01:52:09,800
know if labeling anybody is an atheist

2086
01:52:13,990 --> 01:52:12,170
is there because there's for me

2087
01:52:17,410 --> 01:52:14,000
personally it's like okay when people

2088
01:52:19,330 --> 01:52:17,420
say God there is the theory that a lot

2089
01:52:22,750 --> 01:52:19,340
of people seem to buy into or think it's

2090
01:52:24,760 --> 01:52:22,760
possible that the demigods for example

2091
01:52:26,710 --> 01:52:24,770
came to Planet Earth and we were

2092
01:52:29,920 --> 01:52:26,720
hybridized or created through cloning or

2093
01:52:31,270 --> 01:52:29,930
whatever method where I mean is that up

2094
01:52:33,040 --> 01:52:31,280
can you see that it's more of a

2095
01:52:35,710 --> 01:52:33,050
possibility than they're just one God

2096
01:52:38,950 --> 01:52:35,720
that created everybody well I think it

2097
01:52:41,530 --> 01:52:38,960
comes back to the point that that are we

2098
01:52:45,040 --> 01:52:41,540
I mean let's let's take that example if

2099
01:52:47,230 --> 01:52:45,050
if there are other civilizations out

2100
01:52:50,130 --> 01:52:47,240
there and many of them are far more

2101
01:52:54,190 --> 01:52:50,140
advanced than ours I mean you mentioned

2102
01:52:57,190 --> 01:52:54,200
the phrase demigods but I would say in

2103
01:52:59,230 --> 01:52:57,200
one sense that's probably not a label

2104
01:53:02,470 --> 01:52:59,240
that I would use I would I would just

2105
01:53:03,910 --> 01:53:02,480
say a life-form that that is a bit

2106
01:53:06,820 --> 01:53:03,920
smarter than human beings

2107
01:53:10,570 --> 01:53:06,830
I wouldn't it doesn't make them divine

2108
01:53:12,020 --> 01:53:10,580
any more than than we are divine now

2109
01:53:14,910 --> 01:53:12,030
because we're

2110
01:53:16,440 --> 01:53:14,920
more technologically advanced and

2111
01:53:20,910 --> 01:53:16,450
scientifically knowledgeable than we

2112
01:53:23,340 --> 01:53:20,920
were in the Bronze Age awesome well

2113
01:53:24,870 --> 01:53:23,350
thank you for taking my call I'll get

2114
01:53:27,180 --> 01:53:24,880
off the line here at thanks Jay yeah

2115
01:53:30,210 --> 01:53:27,190
thank you so much Eric great phone call

2116
01:53:33,630 --> 01:53:30,220
Nick you shut him down well done oh

2117
01:53:34,500 --> 01:53:33,640
that's not yeah I think I don't think I

2118
01:53:37,110 --> 01:53:34,510
shut him down

2119
01:53:38,760 --> 01:53:37,120
I answered hopefully I answered his

2120
01:53:41,430 --> 01:53:38,770
question and told him what I thought

2121
01:53:45,990 --> 01:53:41,440
well see you know and that is not my

2122
01:53:47,430 --> 01:53:46,000
intention it's not my intention it's not

2123
01:53:48,540 --> 01:53:47,440
my intention to tell anyone what to

2124
01:53:51,000 --> 01:53:48,550
believe I'm just telling you what I

2125
01:53:55,110 --> 01:53:51,010
believe wait till you see him a contact

2126
01:53:56,820 --> 01:53:55,120
in the desert he's six foot eight so I

2127
01:54:00,660 --> 01:53:56,830
think I've introduced you to him before

2128
01:54:03,300 --> 01:54:00,670
but this is and you're absolutely right

2129
01:54:06,060 --> 01:54:03,310
your presentation at contact then in the

2130
01:54:10,110 --> 01:54:06,070
desert on this subject will be a lively

2131
01:54:10,560 --> 01:54:10,120
one because the people that listen to

2132
01:54:13,260 --> 01:54:10,570
the show

2133
01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:13,270
are completely open-minded right and I

2134
01:54:16,770 --> 01:54:16,090
push that agenda every single day listen

2135
01:54:20,880 --> 01:54:16,780
everybody

2136
01:54:23,670 --> 01:54:20,890
get together here let's talk about it

2137
01:54:27,390 --> 01:54:23,680
and and let's have some fun and when it

2138
01:54:30,570 --> 01:54:27,400
comes to religion that went and and you

2139
01:54:33,570 --> 01:54:30,580
throw UFOs and aliens into the mix you

2140
01:54:35,820 --> 01:54:33,580
have the most extreme opinions and

2141
01:54:38,250 --> 01:54:35,830
that's it and people are going to

2142
01:54:40,410 --> 01:54:38,260
believe what they would they want to

2143
01:54:42,120 --> 01:54:40,420
believe but I've got time for one more

2144
01:54:51,350 --> 01:54:42,130
phone call hi you're live on fade to

2145
01:54:52,740 --> 01:54:51,360
black say hi to Nick Pope yes yes oh

2146
01:54:55,380 --> 01:54:52,750
great

2147
01:54:57,479 --> 01:54:55,390
nice to catch you I was a little bit

2148
01:54:59,400 --> 01:54:57,489
ahead when I jumped over to this phone

2149
01:55:03,750 --> 01:54:59,410
was listening to you through the

2150
01:55:05,820 --> 01:55:03,760
computer Nick so you worked at the the

2151
01:55:10,650 --> 01:55:05,830
oh I'm sorry this is Tom from Dayton

2152
01:55:12,990 --> 01:55:10,660
Ohio hi Tommy that nice to talk with you

2153
01:55:15,240 --> 01:55:13,000
both today okay

2154
01:55:17,600 --> 01:55:15,250
we're gonna we're up against a network

2155
01:55:22,170 --> 01:55:17,610
break here Tom so what's your question

2156
01:55:24,330 --> 01:55:22,180
yeah so Richard Doty called in Jimmy

2157
01:55:26,550 --> 01:55:24,340
Church a while ago and he was the

2158
01:55:29,300 --> 01:55:26,560
disinfo guy here

2159
01:55:34,500 --> 01:55:29,310
and do you get a lot of criticism

2160
01:55:38,490 --> 01:55:34,510
because I would assume as a retired mo

2161
01:55:40,770 --> 01:55:38,500
DEA agent you get a retirement check and

2162
01:55:43,320 --> 01:55:40,780
so there is something to be said about

2163
01:55:43,920 --> 01:55:43,330
you know possibly you still being on the

2164
01:55:46,920 --> 01:55:43,930
payroll

2165
01:55:49,590 --> 01:55:46,930
does that ever come up and how do you

2166
01:55:52,620 --> 01:55:49,600
handle it if it does I will get a

2167
01:55:55,050 --> 01:55:52,630
government pension and I certainly don't

2168
01:55:57,660 --> 01:55:55,060
believe in divulging classified

2169
01:55:58,980 --> 01:55:57,670
information I'm not a whistleblower but

2170
01:56:01,860 --> 01:55:58,990
like a lot of people who've been

2171
01:56:03,480 --> 01:56:01,870
involved in government programs I take

2172
01:56:06,510 --> 01:56:03,490
the view that if the government itself

2173
01:56:08,580 --> 01:56:06,520
declassify his information that's then

2174
01:56:10,710 --> 01:56:08,590
something that I can comment on I

2175
01:56:12,930 --> 01:56:10,720
absolutely get that there will be people

2176
01:56:14,790 --> 01:56:12,940
in the UFO and conspiracy community who

2177
01:56:16,860 --> 01:56:14,800
don't trust me and will say once

2178
01:56:19,770 --> 01:56:16,870
government always government fair enough

2179
01:56:21,150 --> 01:56:19,780
I don't I've Airy much doubt there's

2180
01:56:24,090 --> 01:56:21,160
anything I can say to those people that

2181
01:56:26,940 --> 01:56:24,100
will dissuade them but I am honestly not

2182
01:56:28,890 --> 01:56:26,950
still on the payroll with the exception

2183
01:56:30,330 --> 01:56:28,900
of the fact that I get a pension or I

2184
01:56:35,790 --> 01:56:30,340
will get a pension as a former

2185
01:56:37,740 --> 01:56:35,800
government employer that's right and

2186
01:56:40,890 --> 01:56:37,750
thank you for the call Tom thank you for

2187
01:56:42,570 --> 01:56:40,900
the phone call and I'll see ya thank you

2188
01:56:45,030 --> 01:56:42,580
so much great question and and the other

2189
01:56:47,490 --> 01:56:45,040
thing is Nick I mean I'll speak for you

2190
01:56:52,380 --> 01:56:47,500
you don't want to screw up that pension

2191
01:56:54,780 --> 01:56:52,390
either you you have to be you have to

2192
01:56:58,230 --> 01:56:54,790
stay in bound you know you you

2193
01:56:59,760 --> 01:56:58,240
definitely you know worked for this so

2194
01:57:02,160 --> 01:56:59,770
why you know you don't want to

2195
01:57:04,650 --> 01:57:02,170
jeopardize that no but even if it wasn't

2196
01:57:07,920 --> 01:57:04,660
for the pension I took a security oath

2197
01:57:11,940 --> 01:57:07,930
and I take that seriously a loyalty and

2198
01:57:15,180 --> 01:57:11,950
integrity is is important now what are

2199
01:57:18,330 --> 01:57:15,190
you going to do when you and I pass over

2200
01:57:24,480 --> 01:57:18,340
right to the other side what are you

2201
01:57:28,200 --> 01:57:24,490
going to do there is when I come up to

2202
01:57:32,640 --> 01:57:28,210
you and go yo Nick can he show me around

2203
01:57:34,440 --> 01:57:32,650
this place I think you do

2204
01:57:36,900 --> 01:57:34,450
yeah seeing as I don't think there is

2205
01:57:38,430 --> 01:57:36,910
one I guess I'll be pretty I'll be

2206
01:57:40,890 --> 01:57:38,440
pretty darn surprised Oh

2207
01:57:43,140 --> 01:57:40,900
you and I and Richard Dawkins are gonna

2208
01:57:45,120 --> 01:57:43,150
sit down and have have a little

2209
01:57:47,610 --> 01:57:45,130
conversation Nick thank you so much my

2210
01:57:49,110 --> 01:57:47,620
friend and for coming in tonight and

2211
01:57:51,660 --> 01:57:49,120
doing this it means so much to this

2212
01:57:54,840 --> 01:57:51,670
audience and we'll see you I can't

2213
01:57:57,240 --> 01:57:54,850
believe it in three short weeks at

2214
01:57:58,979 --> 01:57:57,250
contact in the desert be safe and I'll

2215
01:58:01,350 --> 01:57:58,989
see you I'll see you out there

2216
01:58:03,810 --> 01:58:01,360
thanks Jimmy see that thank you so much

2217
01:58:07,410 --> 01:58:03,820
Nick and everybody can just go to Nick

2218
01:58:09,030 --> 01:58:07,420
Pope dotnet all of uh Nick's scheduling

2219
01:58:12,300 --> 01:58:09,040
is right there his books are right there

2220
01:58:13,950 --> 01:58:12,310
and his his blog and everything that he

2221
01:58:16,979 --> 01:58:13,960
does great writing everything is right

2222
01:58:20,670 --> 01:58:16,989
there at Nick Pope dotnet and with that

2223
01:58:22,530 --> 01:58:20,680
I am going to get over to another

2224
01:58:24,630 --> 01:58:22,540
commercial I'm gonna get this in now

2225
01:58:27,450 --> 01:58:24,640
this short break and when I come back

2226
01:58:28,560 --> 01:58:27,460
I'll continue the open lines with all of

2227
01:58:31,800 --> 01:58:28,570
you Thank You Nick

2228
01:58:32,370 --> 01:58:31,810
great conversation Nick Pope this is

2229
01:58:34,470 --> 01:58:32,380
fade to black

2230
01:58:35,939 --> 01:58:34,480
I'm your host Jimmy Church I'll be right

2231
01:58:39,250 --> 01:58:35,949
back with more of your phone calls right

2232
01:58:55,130 --> 01:58:45,340
[Music]

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way out here we listen to Jimmy Church

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you're listening to faint and black

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always on the edge of the hottest

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wildfires this year we've experienced

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more than our fair share this is Jimmy

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decided to make sure my family does not

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now you can combat the effects of stress

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and anxiety while improving your memory

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it does for the body unfortunately I

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can't tell you all about the benefits

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you know there's reasons do your due

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you are listening to fade to black with

2293
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Jenny Church on the game change in

2294
02:01:47,940 --> 02:01:45,910
network hi I'm Lisa Vance you're

2295
02:01:50,850 --> 02:01:47,950
listening to Jimmy Church this is a

2296
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revolution the revolution will not be

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televised the revolution is on radio

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[Music]

2299
02:02:42,200 --> 02:02:39,980
all right welcome back fade to black

2300
02:02:45,680 --> 02:02:42,210
Thank You Nick Pope that was great

2301
02:02:49,730 --> 02:02:45,690
that was great

2302
02:02:53,630 --> 02:02:49,740
I've got my opinions though you know and

2303
02:02:55,430 --> 02:02:53,640
I and it goes back to my point which is

2304
02:02:57,380 --> 02:02:55,440
oh by the way this fade black I'm you'll

2305
02:02:59,780 --> 02:02:57,390
see me Church you can follow me on

2306
02:03:02,690 --> 02:02:59,790
twitter at JD Oh head over on stellar

2307
02:03:05,450 --> 02:03:02,700
alpha dot on stellar dot-com get

2308
02:03:08,330 --> 02:03:05,460
registered over there I have no idea how

2309
02:03:11,390 --> 02:03:08,340
many fader knots are over a non seller

2310
02:03:16,310 --> 02:03:11,400
but it's in it's certainly a couple of

2311
02:03:18,080 --> 02:03:16,320
thousand and all of you messaging me at

2312
02:03:21,140 --> 02:03:18,090
the same time I'm trying to keep up and

2313
02:03:22,370 --> 02:03:21,150
you guys can see that but you can go

2314
02:03:25,370 --> 02:03:22,380
over it on cell we're gonna figure out

2315
02:03:29,060 --> 02:03:25,380
and have a chat solution over an on

2316
02:03:30,620 --> 02:03:29,070
stellar so we can do that and and but in

2317
02:03:32,930 --> 02:03:30,630
the meantime you're more than welcome to

2318
02:03:36,050 --> 02:03:32,940
message me over there certainly Twitter

2319
02:03:39,680 --> 02:03:36,060
at jth radio and either of our chat

2320
02:03:42,920 --> 02:03:39,690
rooms over at Spreaker or kg are a the

2321
02:03:50,690 --> 02:03:42,930
planet I have my opinions about all of

2322
02:03:52,850 --> 02:03:50,700
this and and Richard Dawkins who will

2323
02:03:54,350 --> 02:03:52,860
never be on this program he's welcome to

2324
02:03:57,980 --> 02:03:54,360
come on this program but he wouldn't

2325
02:04:00,740 --> 02:03:57,990
want to hang out here but the the point

2326
02:04:05,330 --> 02:04:00,750
with all of this is and I want to stress

2327
02:04:07,580 --> 02:04:05,340
this I love our community and we can all

2328
02:04:11,690 --> 02:04:07,590
sit around and debate all of this

2329
02:04:13,820 --> 02:04:11,700
there's no reason for an atheist to be

2330
02:04:17,680 --> 02:04:13,830
offended there's no reason for somebody

2331
02:04:21,440 --> 02:04:17,690
that believes in in a god or or whatever

2332
02:04:24,260 --> 02:04:21,450
thing that you do should be offended if

2333
02:04:26,990 --> 02:04:24,270
you are into spirituality and don't

2334
02:04:27,860 --> 02:04:27,000
confuse religion with spirituality as

2335
02:04:31,280 --> 02:04:27,870
two different things

2336
02:04:33,350 --> 02:04:31,290
and you can do nearly all of it at the

2337
02:04:35,210 --> 02:04:33,360
same time too as well I know that sounds

2338
02:04:38,000 --> 02:04:35,220
weird that's kind of like me somebody

2339
02:04:39,320 --> 02:04:38,010
just call me agnostic all right let's go

2340
02:04:45,020 --> 02:04:39,330
to the phones hi you're live on fade to

2341
02:04:45,800 --> 02:04:45,030
black who's calling your lies yes what

2342
02:04:50,270 --> 02:04:45,810
yes

2343
02:04:51,109 --> 02:04:50,280
who's this hey my name is Dale I'll be

2344
02:04:52,609 --> 02:04:51,119
listening to you

2345
02:04:56,209 --> 02:04:52,619
yes sir for a couple of months now and I

2346
02:04:59,209 --> 02:04:56,219
loved it and I took your advice and went

2347
02:05:02,629 --> 02:04:59,219
on to on stellar oh you did good yeah

2348
02:05:04,669 --> 02:05:02,639
and there are a couple of friends I

2349
02:05:06,109 --> 02:05:04,679
talked to about it and the first guy

2350
02:05:07,669 --> 02:05:06,119
asked me he's like well what's their

2351
02:05:09,290 --> 02:05:07,679
business plan to stay in business they

2352
02:05:10,910 --> 02:05:09,300
don't do that they don't do data mining

2353
02:05:14,120 --> 02:05:10,920
I was like no I really don't have an

2354
02:05:24,919 --> 02:05:14,130
idea about that yeah yeah I would ask

2355
02:05:31,129 --> 02:05:24,929
you about this we're broke no it's what

2356
02:05:33,589 --> 02:05:31,139
we are going to do is this will we are

2357
02:05:35,660 --> 02:05:33,599
going to introduce the blockchain and as

2358
02:05:37,850 --> 02:05:35,670
you know when you go to your profile

2359
02:05:40,939 --> 02:05:37,860
page and you click on your profile page

2360
02:05:44,479 --> 02:05:40,949
which I'm going to do right now in real

2361
02:05:47,390 --> 02:05:44,489
time here and you scroll down on the

2362
02:05:51,169 --> 02:05:47,400
left-hand side and you will see your

2363
02:05:54,200 --> 02:05:51,179
wallet okay you've got a wallet there

2364
02:05:57,589 --> 02:05:54,210
and you can see the on stellar tokens

2365
02:06:02,479 --> 02:05:57,599
now this isn't Bitcoin or cryptocurrency

2366
02:06:06,709 --> 02:06:02,489
this is a token the token has value

2367
02:06:10,070 --> 02:06:06,719
right now it's 20 cents per token but

2368
02:06:12,350 --> 02:06:10,080
when you sign on to on stellar and you

2369
02:06:14,300 --> 02:06:12,360
register and if you use a referral code

2370
02:06:17,870 --> 02:06:14,310
if you don't use a referral code you've

2371
02:06:22,100 --> 02:06:17,880
got 10 tokens if you use a referral code

2372
02:06:26,240 --> 02:06:22,110
you're given another 15 token so you'll

2373
02:06:30,379 --> 02:06:26,250
have 25 tokens to start with but it is a

2374
02:06:34,220 --> 02:06:30,389
token based economy so we're going to

2375
02:06:36,770 --> 02:06:34,230
have the blockchain built in and the

2376
02:06:40,820 --> 02:06:36,780
more activity that is done on the site

2377
02:06:44,330 --> 02:06:40,830
up voting down voting comments creation

2378
02:06:48,229 --> 02:06:44,340
of of material and videos and articles

2379
02:06:50,330 --> 02:06:48,239
and things like that the more that you

2380
02:06:53,660 --> 02:06:50,340
do things on this and the more people

2381
02:06:56,149 --> 02:06:53,670
that we have there the more comments and

2382
02:06:58,970 --> 02:06:56,159
post and things that are created the

2383
02:07:03,160 --> 02:06:58,980
blockchain creates more tokens and that

2384
02:07:05,950 --> 02:07:03,170
goes back into the economy and you are

2385
02:07:08,860 --> 02:07:05,960
warded for your comments for your

2386
02:07:12,970 --> 02:07:08,870
uploading it for if you write an article

2387
02:07:15,490 --> 02:07:12,980
or whatever that you do that stimulates

2388
02:07:18,850 --> 02:07:15,500
the economy it's just like a little a

2389
02:07:20,620 --> 02:07:18,860
little town in the Midwest you've got a

2390
02:07:22,270 --> 02:07:20,630
Main Street you've got a barber shop and

2391
02:07:24,910 --> 02:07:22,280
a couple of restaurants you've got a

2392
02:07:27,130 --> 02:07:24,920
general store name you've got things

2393
02:07:30,250 --> 02:07:27,140
right and you've got a farm outside of

2394
02:07:32,500 --> 02:07:30,260
town and a ranch that all feeds the

2395
02:07:35,140 --> 02:07:32,510
little economy that's in this town

2396
02:07:36,970 --> 02:07:35,150
that's what arms teller is that's why

2397
02:07:38,380 --> 02:07:36,980
you're not gonna see advertising and

2398
02:07:40,600 --> 02:07:38,390
that's why you're not gonna see outside

2399
02:07:43,229 --> 02:07:40,610
influences you're not gonna see a

2400
02:07:46,270 --> 02:07:43,239
corporate structure come in and try to

2401
02:07:50,020 --> 02:07:46,280
to manhandle you or anything like that

2402
02:07:51,729 --> 02:07:50,030
and that's what it's based on and all

2403
02:07:54,100 --> 02:07:51,739
you have to do is go and register and

2404
02:07:56,290 --> 02:07:54,110
you can start participating in the

2405
02:07:59,950 --> 02:07:56,300
economy we're gonna get the blockchain

2406
02:08:01,540 --> 02:07:59,960
in here as soon as we clear out of the

2407
02:08:04,030 --> 02:08:01,550
beta stage and we know that everything

2408
02:08:05,530 --> 02:08:04,040
is running and cool and there you go and

2409
02:08:09,570 --> 02:08:05,540
that's it that's it it's nothing more

2410
02:08:12,760 --> 02:08:09,580
than that it's not a big secret okay yes

2411
02:08:14,590 --> 02:08:12,770
there's a couple of other counter I'll

2412
02:08:19,800 --> 02:08:14,600
I'm all tenets that are taking that

2413
02:08:23,160 --> 02:08:19,810
approach so like gab is doing that yeah

2414
02:08:28,030 --> 02:08:23,170
yeah it's the future of everything and

2415
02:08:31,510 --> 02:08:28,040
if if Facebook was smart if YouTube was

2416
02:08:36,790 --> 02:08:31,520
smart and everything I'm talking about

2417
02:08:39,729 --> 02:08:36,800
Netflix or anything out there they would

2418
02:08:42,880 --> 02:08:39,739
look at this as Internet 3.0 and move

2419
02:08:48,550 --> 02:08:42,890
into this type of structure with the

2420
02:08:51,160 --> 02:08:48,560
blockchain they should all do it and the

2421
02:08:53,709 --> 02:08:51,170
the technology that everybody is based

2422
02:08:56,709 --> 02:08:53,719
on right now is the technology that was

2423
02:08:59,290 --> 02:08:56,719
developed for this type of economic

2424
02:09:03,550 --> 02:08:59,300
system and and basis for the Internet

2425
02:09:07,030 --> 02:09:03,560
that's from 1995 you know this is this

2426
02:09:09,939 --> 02:09:07,040
is 2018 and we will figure this out on

2427
02:09:13,959 --> 02:09:09,949
our own and one thing is for sure is

2428
02:09:16,330 --> 02:09:13,969
that the the internet and those that use

2429
02:09:18,520 --> 02:09:16,340
the Internet have figured out something

2430
02:09:20,590 --> 02:09:18,530
they don't like being data mined they

2431
02:09:22,990 --> 02:09:20,600
don't like their data being sold they're

2432
02:09:25,240 --> 02:09:23,000
tired of looking at advertising and

2433
02:09:28,780 --> 02:09:25,250
they're tired of selective advertising

2434
02:09:31,180 --> 02:09:28,790
focused at them when it feels intrusive

2435
02:09:35,020 --> 02:09:31,190
there is nothing you know what's creepy

2436
02:09:37,690 --> 02:09:35,030
to me and your name is Dale or Daryl no

2437
02:09:43,840 --> 02:09:37,700
Dale okay you know what's creepy to me

2438
02:09:49,990 --> 02:09:43,850
is I last week I'll give you a perfect

2439
02:09:52,720 --> 02:09:50,000
example last week Rita and I bought some

2440
02:09:57,910 --> 02:09:52,730
furniture for a family member

2441
02:10:00,220 --> 02:09:57,920
okay and we literally were in the car

2442
02:10:03,670 --> 02:10:00,230
and we were thinking about going to a

2443
02:10:07,390 --> 02:10:03,680
few different places and so we looked up

2444
02:10:09,670 --> 02:10:07,400
this piece of furniture you know on the

2445
02:10:11,650 --> 02:10:09,680
net and you know so we could go to the

2446
02:10:14,920 --> 02:10:11,660
closest place and go and get it or buy

2447
02:10:18,100 --> 02:10:14,930
it and have it delivered later on that

2448
02:10:21,820 --> 02:10:18,110
afternoon a few minutes after doing the

2449
02:10:26,770 --> 02:10:21,830
search right suddenly this furniture is

2450
02:10:31,510 --> 02:10:26,780
now in our facebook newsfeed Ave you

2451
02:10:33,940 --> 02:10:31,520
know and it took it took minutes minutes

2452
02:10:35,890 --> 02:10:33,950
it's like the most offensive thing and

2453
02:10:39,130 --> 02:10:35,900
we're done with it what does suddenly we

2454
02:10:41,650 --> 02:10:39,140
need this furniture it's like and it's

2455
02:10:44,410 --> 02:10:41,660
it's like that and I don't need that in

2456
02:10:46,810 --> 02:10:44,420
my life I don't I don't need that kind

2457
02:10:48,760 --> 02:10:46,820
of Big Brother action Dale and so you're

2458
02:10:51,370 --> 02:10:48,770
not gonna see that on on stellar I can

2459
02:10:53,320 --> 02:10:51,380
promise you have a great day

2460
02:10:55,450 --> 02:10:53,330
oh yeah go another big issue is that

2461
02:10:59,440 --> 02:10:55,460
people are being you know deep

2462
02:11:01,630 --> 02:10:59,450
platformed and censorship yes all the

2463
02:11:03,310 --> 02:11:01,640
sudden yes that censorship stuff I think

2464
02:11:05,140 --> 02:11:03,320
it's probably a concern some of my

2465
02:11:07,450 --> 02:11:05,150
friends have yes and you're not gonna

2466
02:11:09,880 --> 02:11:07,460
have that over on on stellar just as

2467
02:11:13,570 --> 02:11:09,890
long as you you know everybody's got a

2468
02:11:18,130 --> 02:11:13,580
moral compass and if you stay inside of

2469
02:11:20,320 --> 02:11:18,140
what you would normally do or say you

2470
02:11:22,990 --> 02:11:20,330
stay inside of those boundaries you can

2471
02:11:25,780 --> 02:11:23,000
do whatever you want on on on stellar

2472
02:11:27,640 --> 02:11:25,790
you know and and and think about that

2473
02:11:28,120 --> 02:11:27,650
there's not going to be that doesn't

2474
02:11:30,160 --> 02:11:28,130
mean

2475
02:11:33,910 --> 02:11:30,170
oh man it's freedom of speech no censors

2476
02:11:36,280 --> 02:11:33,920
alright I'm gonna do pornography and I'm

2477
02:11:37,810 --> 02:11:36,290
gonna post that up I know that ain't

2478
02:11:40,270 --> 02:11:37,820
that kind of party that's not what I'm

2479
02:11:43,420 --> 02:11:40,280
saying when I say no sons you stay

2480
02:11:46,960 --> 02:11:43,430
inside of the boundaries this is I don't

2481
02:11:50,830 --> 02:11:46,970
I don't have any problems with somebody

2482
02:11:52,480 --> 02:11:50,840
that doesn't necessarily have an

2483
02:11:55,360 --> 02:11:52,490
interest in the paranormal of the

2484
02:11:57,160 --> 02:11:55,370
supernatural or UFOs but they want to

2485
02:11:59,230 --> 02:11:57,170
come over and hang out and learn and

2486
02:12:05,730 --> 02:11:59,240
these start a profile page and they want

2487
02:12:10,120 --> 02:12:05,740
to post stuff about crocheting or golf

2488
02:12:13,000 --> 02:12:10,130
you know that it's a yeah you know but

2489
02:12:15,850 --> 02:12:13,010
but that's that's what this is about and

2490
02:12:19,570 --> 02:12:15,860
if you can come over here and enjoy the

2491
02:12:22,570 --> 02:12:19,580
platform without the intrusion of data

2492
02:12:24,310 --> 02:12:22,580
mining or corporations or advertising

2493
02:12:26,470 --> 02:12:24,320
and that's the environment that you want

2494
02:12:28,570 --> 02:12:26,480
well you're gonna have that over here so

2495
02:12:30,340 --> 02:12:28,580
come over and have fun it's gonna blow

2496
02:12:32,590 --> 02:12:30,350
up and I'm telling you I'm stellar is

2497
02:12:34,240 --> 02:12:32,600
gonna take over it's gonna take over

2498
02:12:37,120 --> 02:12:34,250
Thank You Dale have a great night my

2499
02:12:40,210 --> 02:12:37,130
friend thank you yeah I have a great

2500
02:12:41,860 --> 02:12:40,220
night and let me do this let me do this

2501
02:12:45,760 --> 02:12:41,870
hi you're live on fade to black I'm

2502
02:12:48,210 --> 02:12:45,770
going with area code 604 you're up next

2503
02:12:54,190 --> 02:12:48,220
on fade to black

2504
02:12:56,890 --> 02:12:54,200
hi hi Jim jibing it's it's Paul over

2505
02:13:01,300 --> 02:12:56,900
here hi Paul in Vancouver what's on your

2506
02:13:04,330 --> 02:13:01,310
mind hey you know I'm really excited

2507
02:13:05,800 --> 02:13:04,340
about I'm stellar I think it's gonna I

2508
02:13:08,050 --> 02:13:05,810
think it's going to take off big time

2509
02:13:10,600 --> 02:13:08,060
yes it is it doesn't have a choice you

2510
02:13:12,880 --> 02:13:10,610
know this is something that the

2511
02:13:16,480 --> 02:13:12,890
community in the world needs right now

2512
02:13:18,970 --> 02:13:16,490
and it's already blowing up and just I'm

2513
02:13:21,730 --> 02:13:18,980
telling you the next couple of months is

2514
02:13:24,850 --> 02:13:21,740
gonna be an amazing ride

2515
02:13:31,390 --> 02:13:24,860
so welcome what's your screen name over

2516
02:13:34,600 --> 02:13:31,400
on on stellar well I I chose bear an owl

2517
02:13:38,770 --> 02:13:34,610
and in the beginning but I had this

2518
02:13:40,780 --> 02:13:38,780
changes because I'm not sure you know I

2519
02:13:42,670 --> 02:13:40,790
tried to get on a couple of times but

2520
02:13:44,920 --> 02:13:42,680
I'm not sure what happened okay

2521
02:13:48,580 --> 02:13:44,930
well get over there and send me a friend

2522
02:13:50,970 --> 02:13:48,590
request okay yeah well thank you so much

2523
02:13:53,230 --> 02:13:50,980
Paul behaving be well great phone call

2524
02:13:53,970 --> 02:13:53,240
hi your life on fade to black who's

2525
02:13:57,550 --> 02:13:53,980
calling

2526
02:14:00,460 --> 02:13:57,560
hey Jimmy this is Mike over in Spokane a

2527
02:14:05,080 --> 02:14:00,470
cream 66 on Stella ah

2528
02:14:06,220 --> 02:14:05,090
how are you mad I'm doing good tired but

2529
02:14:08,620 --> 02:14:06,230
I'm doing good

2530
02:14:10,600 --> 02:14:08,630
Hey I just want to say I listen to you

2531
02:14:13,780 --> 02:14:10,610
every morning because as you know I I

2532
02:14:17,890 --> 02:14:13,790
get up really really early and I work

2533
02:14:23,020 --> 02:14:17,900
long hours but you your show you have a

2534
02:14:25,120 --> 02:14:23,030
way of hitting the public and just to

2535
02:14:26,590 --> 02:14:25,130
where it's like we're family I mean I

2536
02:14:29,650 --> 02:14:26,600
know we're family you preach it

2537
02:14:31,600 --> 02:14:29,660
constantly but I mean you literally feel

2538
02:14:34,870 --> 02:14:31,610
like you're family and that's cool and

2539
02:14:37,480 --> 02:14:34,880
it makes my day go by so it's it's fun

2540
02:14:42,880 --> 02:14:37,490
and on stellar man I can't wait till

2541
02:14:47,550 --> 02:14:42,890
everything just goes I know it is y'all

2542
02:14:49,960 --> 02:14:47,560
you know what it's so much fun now and

2543
02:14:52,450 --> 02:14:49,970
because everything is is pretty much

2544
02:14:57,700 --> 02:14:52,460
running but after we get the news feed

2545
02:14:59,980 --> 02:14:57,710
in I mean for me I it was it was one of

2546
02:15:01,510 --> 02:14:59,990
my requirements for on stellar from the

2547
02:15:02,980 --> 02:15:01,520
beginning we have to do this and this

2548
02:15:05,850 --> 02:15:02,990
and this on our profile page

2549
02:15:08,740 --> 02:15:05,860
and it's something that nobody else does

2550
02:15:10,840 --> 02:15:08,750
but once that goes into play because we

2551
02:15:13,360 --> 02:15:10,850
have groups we have company pages we

2552
02:15:17,200 --> 02:15:13,370
have article writing we have the

2553
02:15:18,880 --> 02:15:17,210
trending in and and and now all of these

2554
02:15:21,520 --> 02:15:18,890
elements that make it so cool that

2555
02:15:24,460 --> 02:15:21,530
nobody else is doing but once that news

2556
02:15:27,130 --> 02:15:24,470
feed goes in the five or six or seven

2557
02:15:29,800 --> 02:15:27,140
things that everybody should have on a

2558
02:15:32,080 --> 02:15:29,810
social media site all going to be there

2559
02:15:36,130 --> 02:15:32,090
and running and then that's it man it's

2560
02:15:37,570 --> 02:15:36,140
off to the races oh I agree I agree I'm

2561
02:15:40,270 --> 02:15:37,580
excited for it

2562
02:15:45,610 --> 02:15:40,280
I even donated to it a couple of times

2563
02:15:50,560 --> 02:15:45,620
actually how many how many tokens see

2564
02:15:53,050 --> 02:15:50,570
having your wallet 200 mm seventy-five

2565
02:15:55,510 --> 02:15:53,060
roots hands what I'm talking about

2566
02:15:56,590 --> 02:15:55,520
okay now Mike let's get off on seller

2567
02:16:00,340 --> 02:15:56,600
for a second welcome

2568
02:16:03,850 --> 02:16:00,350
thank you and and and I look forward to

2569
02:16:06,490 --> 02:16:03,860
a nice long fun friendship on stellar in

2570
02:16:08,590 --> 02:16:06,500
this program but let me ask you let me

2571
02:16:11,770 --> 02:16:08,600
ask you here's the test I'm gonna test

2572
02:16:15,970 --> 02:16:11,780
you who's your favorite heavy metal

2573
02:16:23,560 --> 02:16:20,710
honestly to me though you know I grew up

2574
02:16:27,330 --> 02:16:23,570
and I was born in 66 but the 80s was my

2575
02:16:31,000 --> 02:16:27,340
favorite along with the late 70s okay

2576
02:16:34,420 --> 02:16:31,010
you're right in my boys house so I can't

2577
02:16:37,030 --> 02:16:34,430
wait to hear this Eddie Van Halen is my

2578
02:16:39,820 --> 02:16:37,040
favorite there you go that's what I'm

2579
02:16:41,860 --> 02:16:39,830
talking see the thing is Mike and thank

2580
02:16:45,100 --> 02:16:41,870
you for the phone call but what is

2581
02:16:50,230 --> 02:16:45,110
important here is that when you say

2582
02:16:52,770 --> 02:16:50,240
family the thing is I have always let it

2583
02:16:57,280 --> 02:16:52,780
all hang out I don't know you know I I

2584
02:17:00,041 --> 02:16:57,290
don't hide anything and so when I when I

2585
02:17:03,370 --> 02:17:00,051
talk about the things that motivate me

2586
02:17:07,541 --> 02:17:03,380
like Eddie Van Halen write music or

2587
02:17:12,010 --> 02:17:07,551
movies or or food or breakfast cereals

2588
02:17:15,100 --> 02:17:12,020
or UFOs or time travel or Egypt these

2589
02:17:17,530 --> 02:17:15,110
are the things that interest me and the

2590
02:17:20,020 --> 02:17:17,540
audience has grown because they listen

2591
02:17:23,050 --> 02:17:20,030
to this they may not you know Egypt

2592
02:17:27,450 --> 02:17:23,060
maybe it is it may not be Eddie Van

2593
02:17:29,800 --> 02:17:27,460
Halen or 80s hair band it may not but

2594
02:17:31,570 --> 02:17:29,810
something is gonna you know and they're

2595
02:17:38,650 --> 02:17:31,580
gonna you know what this dude does this

2596
02:17:40,840 --> 02:17:38,660
do church he's all right that's all that

2597
02:17:43,780 --> 02:17:40,850
happens here Mike and and you picked up

2598
02:17:46,720 --> 02:17:43,790
on that so thank you and let's go hang

2599
02:17:49,600 --> 02:17:46,730
out on on stellar after the show right

2600
02:17:51,970 --> 02:17:49,610
on and I think you and Rita and the crew

2601
02:17:54,220 --> 02:17:51,980
and Teresa wanted me to say to Rita

2602
02:17:55,810 --> 02:17:54,230
thanks for accepting a friend request

2603
02:17:58,330 --> 02:17:55,820
there you go

2604
02:18:01,660 --> 02:17:58,340
all right give give Teresa my best mic

2605
02:18:05,440 --> 02:18:01,670
and don't be a stranger I will thank you

2606
02:18:08,530 --> 02:18:05,450
so much great phone call hi your life on

2607
02:18:10,150 --> 02:18:08,540
fade to black who's calling hey Jimmy

2608
02:18:13,480 --> 02:18:10,160
it's your brother from another mother

2609
02:18:16,750 --> 02:18:13,490
Jonathan Hall Jonathan Hall how are you

2610
02:18:18,669 --> 02:18:16,760
man I'm good sir how are you doing it's

2611
02:18:23,290 --> 02:18:18,679
it's Thursday night man's fate or night

2612
02:18:26,110 --> 02:18:23,300
head Nick Pope right got John yeah

2613
02:18:29,709 --> 02:18:26,120
anyway listen I want to thank you so

2614
02:18:32,100 --> 02:18:29,719
much I'm on on stellar as you know we

2615
02:18:35,380 --> 02:18:32,110
chatted a little bit earlier on there

2616
02:18:37,209 --> 02:18:35,390
but I want to urge people there's all

2617
02:18:39,669 --> 02:18:37,219
kinds of you I listen to people talk

2618
02:18:41,890 --> 02:18:39,679
about all kinds of different things on

2619
02:18:43,360 --> 02:18:41,900
your show and there's been some people

2620
02:18:44,770 --> 02:18:43,370
calling there have some deep-rooted

2621
02:18:48,400 --> 02:18:44,780
beliefs right

2622
02:18:51,520 --> 02:18:48,410
and I just urge people to be tender to

2623
02:18:55,600 --> 02:18:51,530
one another over there we all have

2624
02:18:58,169 --> 02:18:55,610
something to share and I've been around

2625
02:19:02,770 --> 02:18:58,179
the block a few times and I can tell you

2626
02:19:04,450 --> 02:19:02,780
that everyone has something to say we

2627
02:19:09,330 --> 02:19:04,460
may not agree with it but if we listen

2628
02:19:12,940 --> 02:19:09,340
to them where I come from there's

2629
02:19:18,190 --> 02:19:12,950
there's something that speaks through

2630
02:19:19,900 --> 02:19:18,200
them and if you listen you may hear

2631
02:19:23,169 --> 02:19:19,910
something that you're supposed to hear

2632
02:19:28,180 --> 02:19:23,179
in order to maybe make you take a look

2633
02:19:31,480 --> 02:19:28,190
somewhere but beyond that I also want to

2634
02:19:34,840 --> 02:19:31,490
say that I heard your show the other

2635
02:19:38,380 --> 02:19:34,850
night as you know and then you spoke

2636
02:19:41,530 --> 02:19:38,390
about Google and YouTube and you spoke

2637
02:19:44,620 --> 02:19:41,540
about the statistics which I found quite

2638
02:19:48,100 --> 02:19:44,630
terrifying I knew that oh well they had

2639
02:19:52,600 --> 02:19:48,110
pretty much taken over but I had no idea

2640
02:19:55,390 --> 02:19:52,610
to what degree I have gotten on Facebook

2641
02:19:57,761 --> 02:19:55,400
a long time ago back during the the

2642
02:20:01,680 --> 02:19:57,771
election we had left for numerous

2643
02:20:04,710 --> 02:20:01,690
reasons also knowing what Facebook was

2644
02:20:07,360 --> 02:20:04,720
before they published what they

2645
02:20:11,980 --> 02:20:07,370
published to the public in the news and

2646
02:20:14,320 --> 02:20:11,990
everything else and I have put a post up

2647
02:20:18,580 --> 02:20:14,330
there on on stellar if people would like

2648
02:20:21,131 --> 02:20:18,590
to see it kind of a crazy title but it's

2649
02:20:24,190 --> 02:20:21,141
it's the title makes the pointing point

2650
02:20:27,580 --> 02:20:24,200
of just how personal they get we

2651
02:20:29,410 --> 02:20:27,590
you and your family your kids and how

2652
02:20:31,360 --> 02:20:29,420
they cannot wait for you to put that

2653
02:20:34,180 --> 02:20:31,370
little phone in their hand so they can

2654
02:20:37,620 --> 02:20:34,190
start getting on there and I think we

2655
02:20:40,060 --> 02:20:37,630
all know that it's social programming

2656
02:20:43,091 --> 02:20:40,070
that they are trying to direct us and

2657
02:20:45,250 --> 02:20:43,101
steer us in certain ways if they don't

2658
02:20:48,580 --> 02:20:45,260
know that they're not paying attention

2659
02:20:51,011 --> 02:20:48,590
I've been called paranoid Elsa reply

2660
02:20:53,020 --> 02:20:51,021
well if you're not paranoid you're not

2661
02:20:54,730 --> 02:20:53,030
paying attention that's a cliche that's

2662
02:20:57,820 --> 02:20:54,740
been going around but there is so much

2663
02:21:01,801 --> 02:20:57,830
truth to that I just want to say thank

2664
02:21:04,450 --> 02:21:01,811
you and keep doing what you're doing

2665
02:21:07,650 --> 02:21:04,460
afraid to say you have a new star on

2666
02:21:10,330 --> 02:21:07,660
your show me mica yeah he's amazing us

2667
02:21:12,730 --> 02:21:10,340
man the first time I heard him go on

2668
02:21:14,770 --> 02:21:12,740
there I laughed and giggled through that

2669
02:21:16,421 --> 02:21:14,780
whole thing listening to him it was

2670
02:21:18,490 --> 02:21:16,431
amazing

2671
02:21:21,580 --> 02:21:18,500
he totally upstaged you and Nick by the

2672
02:21:23,350 --> 02:21:21,590
way and so you better move over there's

2673
02:21:23,740 --> 02:21:23,360
a new kid on the block that's exactly

2674
02:21:26,740 --> 02:21:23,750
right

2675
02:21:29,200 --> 02:21:26,750
that's I you know what a getting

2676
02:21:33,730 --> 02:21:29,210
upstaged by mica is what life is all

2677
02:21:37,180 --> 02:21:33,740
about that's it that's it I mean if you

2678
02:21:42,011 --> 02:21:37,190
if you really think about it

2679
02:21:44,740 --> 02:21:42,021
the there is always an an evolutionary

2680
02:21:46,780 --> 02:21:44,750
process and anything right and think

2681
02:21:49,240 --> 02:21:46,790
about the guitar players from the 50s

2682
02:21:51,640 --> 02:21:49,250
and look at these kids today playing

2683
02:21:53,740 --> 02:21:51,650
guitar man go check out you know checked

2684
02:21:55,390 --> 02:21:53,750
out bumblefoot you know and you go watch

2685
02:21:58,600 --> 02:21:55,400
him and you're just like wait a minute

2686
02:22:00,640 --> 02:21:58,610
here man stop the bus

2687
02:22:03,580 --> 02:22:00,650
right this is what's going on today and

2688
02:22:05,980 --> 02:22:03,590
so you have this you know who would have

2689
02:22:08,350 --> 02:22:05,990
thought that Eddie Van Halen could have

2690
02:22:11,080 --> 02:22:08,360
been approved upon or Steve Vai could

2691
02:22:14,860 --> 02:22:11,090
have been approved upon or you know you

2692
02:22:16,750 --> 02:22:14,870
go back Jimmy Page or Hendrix and you

2693
02:22:19,750 --> 02:22:16,760
know how could these things approve but

2694
02:22:22,480 --> 02:22:19,760
they all do and it's the same thing with

2695
02:22:24,220 --> 02:22:22,490
with knowledge or basketball you know

2696
02:22:24,790 --> 02:22:24,230
who could have gotten better than Jerry

2697
02:22:27,400 --> 02:22:24,800
West

2698
02:22:29,560 --> 02:22:27,410
well then along comes Michael Jordan who

2699
02:22:31,360 --> 02:22:29,570
would have been better than dr. J right

2700
02:22:33,250 --> 02:22:31,370
and Michael Jordan comes along then he

2701
02:22:36,490 --> 02:22:33,260
got kobe bryant and now we've got LeBron

2702
02:22:38,950 --> 02:22:36,500
James whatever you know things get bad

2703
02:22:42,280 --> 02:22:38,960
and better and better and better and and

2704
02:22:44,979 --> 02:22:42,290
so today Mika nine years old

2705
02:22:46,240 --> 02:22:44,989
if I get shown up by Mika bring it I

2706
02:22:50,740 --> 02:22:46,250
love every second of it

2707
02:22:52,479 --> 02:22:50,750
thank you so much Jonathan one last one

2708
02:22:57,250 --> 02:22:52,489
last thing and I'm gonna get out of here

2709
02:22:59,019 --> 02:22:57,260
sure Mika is the future and he not just

2710
02:23:01,059 --> 02:22:59,029
the future I'm speaking for children in

2711
02:23:03,160 --> 02:23:01,069
general and this is why I feel so

2712
02:23:05,679 --> 02:23:03,170
strongly about some of the things that I

2713
02:23:07,900 --> 02:23:05,689
have to say be it on on stellar or just

2714
02:23:11,260 --> 02:23:07,910
communicating with you right is that the

2715
02:23:14,110 --> 02:23:11,270
kids are our future and we need to

2716
02:23:17,229 --> 02:23:14,120
protect them from those that would love

2717
02:23:19,300 --> 02:23:17,239
to take over our world and that's all I

2718
02:23:21,130 --> 02:23:19,310
have to say about that and we have to do

2719
02:23:24,580 --> 02:23:21,140
what we have to do in order to make

2720
02:23:27,940 --> 02:23:24,590
their future possible free a free future

2721
02:23:30,160 --> 02:23:27,950
god bless Jimmy all my best now and

2722
02:23:33,550 --> 02:23:30,170
forever thank you so much Jonathan great

2723
02:23:36,700 --> 02:23:33,560
phone call my friend all right have a

2724
02:23:38,320 --> 02:23:36,710
good night and and he is he's absolutely

2725
02:23:39,969 --> 02:23:38,330
right there I've got time for one more

2726
02:23:42,130 --> 02:23:39,979
phone call then I'm gonna comment on

2727
02:23:44,429 --> 02:23:42,140
this after the break hi you're live I'm

2728
02:23:48,340 --> 02:23:44,439
paid to block who's calling

2729
02:23:51,400 --> 02:23:48,350
Mike Montana Jenni hi Mike from Montana

2730
02:23:53,830 --> 02:23:51,410
what are you like my fourth Mike phone

2731
02:23:55,450 --> 02:23:53,840
call tonight what are the odds of that

2732
02:23:58,809 --> 02:23:55,460
all right how are you Mike

2733
02:24:00,580 --> 02:23:58,819
what's going on hey I wanted to ask one

2734
02:24:02,099 --> 02:24:00,590
quick question about on stone and then I

2735
02:24:05,500 --> 02:24:02,109
wanted to ask you something else but uh

2736
02:24:07,750 --> 02:24:05,510
went on still tying up loose on my

2737
02:24:16,210 --> 02:24:07,760
videos is there a limit sighs woman

2738
02:24:18,460 --> 02:24:16,220
maybe what I would do for now if the

2739
02:24:22,150 --> 02:24:18,470
videos are up on YouTube just use a

2740
02:24:24,219 --> 02:24:22,160
youtube link I I don't have that

2741
02:24:27,790 --> 02:24:24,229
technical answer right now but what I

2742
02:24:31,330 --> 02:24:27,800
would do if you if you need to find this

2743
02:24:33,910 --> 02:24:31,340
out just write info at on stellar calm

2744
02:24:38,769 --> 02:24:33,920
and ask that question and you will get a

2745
02:24:41,590 --> 02:24:38,779
response all right okay I don't have the

2746
02:24:44,580 --> 02:24:41,600
answers to everything I'm close I'm

2747
02:24:47,139 --> 02:24:44,590
close Mike okay what's your question

2748
02:24:48,670 --> 02:24:47,149
well it's not really a question it's

2749
02:24:49,900 --> 02:24:48,680
kind of like a list of the Knicks

2750
02:24:53,140 --> 02:24:49,910
earlier the answer

2751
02:24:55,960 --> 02:24:53,150
something about deaf deaf being you know

2752
02:24:58,600 --> 02:24:55,970
maybe the end point where right I drink

2753
02:25:03,960 --> 02:24:58,610
I drowned at six years old I can tell

2754
02:25:07,240 --> 02:25:03,970
him it's not really the end point I was

2755
02:25:10,960 --> 02:25:07,250
six years old I drowned in the river

2756
02:25:13,270 --> 02:25:10,970
went 300 some yards underwater and was

2757
02:25:18,700 --> 02:25:13,280
lucky that I actually got pulled out by

2758
02:25:22,270 --> 02:25:18,710
the person hmm encountered me and but I

2759
02:25:26,710 --> 02:25:22,280
was I was probably without a heartbeat

2760
02:25:29,650 --> 02:25:26,720
no breathing for seven eight minutes and

2761
02:25:33,160 --> 02:25:29,660
during that whole time yeah there is a

2762
02:25:36,250 --> 02:25:33,170
life I saw that too well what really got

2763
02:25:38,860 --> 02:25:36,260
me was even at six years old I had never

2764
02:25:41,950 --> 02:25:38,870
heard any of this stuff before it's six

2765
02:25:43,720 --> 02:25:41,960
years old my life went backwards at the

2766
02:25:47,591 --> 02:25:43,730
moment that I realized there was no

2767
02:25:50,290 --> 02:25:47,601
turning back you know I I done sucked in

2768
02:25:54,700 --> 02:25:50,300
the water I couldn't it was fading fast

2769
02:25:57,910 --> 02:25:54,710
you know but my life every day the

2770
02:26:00,730 --> 02:25:57,920
highlights of every day of my life all

2771
02:26:03,160 --> 02:26:00,740
the way back to my birth it amazed me

2772
02:26:06,400 --> 02:26:03,170
that's what really amazing it's like if

2773
02:26:09,011 --> 02:26:06,410
I was a hallucination how could you do

2774
02:26:12,730 --> 02:26:09,021
that as a six-year-old you know I'm

2775
02:26:14,710 --> 02:26:12,740
saying because there's no there's no you

2776
02:26:17,650 --> 02:26:14,720
know like people say you're influenced

2777
02:26:19,320 --> 02:26:17,660
by all these things as you grow older I

2778
02:26:21,610 --> 02:26:19,330
had no influence I didn't even

2779
02:26:24,490 --> 02:26:21,620
understand what was about to happen I

2780
02:26:29,410 --> 02:26:24,500
knew I was going to probably die but I

2781
02:26:31,330 --> 02:26:29,420
didn't realize the experience and for

2782
02:26:35,400 --> 02:26:31,340
seven minutes I went through the whole

2783
02:26:38,890 --> 02:26:35,410
experience and when it wife finally

2784
02:26:42,060 --> 02:26:38,900
regained consciousness the first thing I

2785
02:26:45,430 --> 02:26:42,070
said was why did you bring me back right

2786
02:26:47,830 --> 02:26:45,440
and and it was like they all looked at

2787
02:26:51,250 --> 02:26:47,840
me strangely I was probably still green

2788
02:26:54,220 --> 02:26:51,260
color and I was like you know where I

2789
02:26:58,390 --> 02:26:54,230
was I was perfectly happy and I came

2790
02:27:00,430 --> 02:26:58,400
back and I was like uh somebody messed

2791
02:27:03,910 --> 02:27:00,440
up here I'm not supposed to be here now

2792
02:27:08,019 --> 02:27:03,920
with you all and and it seemed like

2793
02:27:09,429 --> 02:27:08,029
like I got booted out look you know you

2794
02:27:11,830 --> 02:27:09,439
know like one surviving it throughout

2795
02:27:14,200 --> 02:27:11,840
the house it really kind of for a long

2796
02:27:16,719 --> 02:27:14,210
time it kind of I don't want say

2797
02:27:20,110 --> 02:27:16,729
depressed me but it I just didn't feel

2798
02:27:22,300 --> 02:27:20,120
like I belong to you know I mean because

2799
02:27:25,780 --> 02:27:22,310
of all that experience that I went

2800
02:27:29,679 --> 02:27:25,790
through during that seven minutes we've

2801
02:27:31,269 --> 02:27:29,689
seen like an eternity I don't know I

2802
02:27:34,000 --> 02:27:31,279
don't know if Nick's worry about it

2803
02:27:36,670 --> 02:27:34,010
being yet I just think it I'm not

2804
02:27:38,800 --> 02:27:36,680
religious I don't know I don't go around

2805
02:27:42,370 --> 02:27:38,810
with a bottle of hand all that right but

2806
02:27:44,679 --> 02:27:42,380
I know there's something beyond this I

2807
02:27:48,399 --> 02:27:44,689
don't know exactly what it is I got a

2808
02:27:50,439 --> 02:27:48,409
taste of it and be honest with you I

2809
02:27:52,960 --> 02:27:50,449
really I don't fear death I thought oh I

2810
02:27:56,590 --> 02:27:52,970
did some of the stupidest things anybody

2811
02:28:02,290 --> 02:27:56,600
could imagine right say free climbing a

2812
02:28:04,809 --> 02:28:02,300
face clip there's exactly right and

2813
02:28:07,809 --> 02:28:04,819
can't I had to admit but I had a bottle

2814
02:28:10,290 --> 02:28:07,819
of Jack and to my buddies with me and we

2815
02:28:14,469 --> 02:28:10,300
decided hey why not let's try it

2816
02:28:19,269 --> 02:28:14,479
so I mean crazy stuff like added yeah

2817
02:28:21,849 --> 02:28:19,279
but I never fear death from six one even

2818
02:28:25,059 --> 02:28:21,859
to this day I've been car wrecked it

2819
02:28:28,540 --> 02:28:25,069
would kill most people I flipped the car

2820
02:28:31,269 --> 02:28:28,550
17 times hit a culvert jackknifed it and

2821
02:28:34,360 --> 02:28:31,279
what it did is it slammed through a

2822
02:28:36,880 --> 02:28:34,370
stone column at the end of this man's

2823
02:28:39,670 --> 02:28:36,890
driveway that went through the driver's

2824
02:28:41,920 --> 02:28:39,680
side and I was on the passenger side

2825
02:28:45,130 --> 02:28:41,930
hanging onto a strap with two threads

2826
02:28:46,630 --> 02:28:45,140
over going through the door and if it

2827
02:28:49,059 --> 02:28:46,640
had broke loose I would have been over

2828
02:28:51,070 --> 02:28:49,069
in the middle of that stone pile coming

2829
02:28:54,280 --> 02:28:51,080
through it but I walked away from that

2830
02:28:56,200 --> 02:28:54,290
retro scratch it it actually freaked the

2831
02:28:59,530 --> 02:28:56,210
priest out who showed up to give me last

2832
02:29:02,139 --> 02:28:59,540
right as I walked away like okay you

2833
02:29:05,380 --> 02:29:02,149
know I wrecked my car but I'm still here

2834
02:29:07,450 --> 02:29:05,390
can't help and didn't have a scratch on

2835
02:29:08,620 --> 02:29:07,460
me and that people at the farmer that

2836
02:29:11,080 --> 02:29:08,630
owned the property

2837
02:29:15,429 --> 02:29:11,090
II saw it was at nighttime so he saw the

2838
02:29:17,200 --> 02:29:15,439
car lights and all and but he looked at

2839
02:29:19,870 --> 02:29:17,210
me and he said you have not

2840
02:29:21,130 --> 02:29:19,880
in a sprat and he had to break a window

2841
02:29:21,580 --> 02:29:21,140
out for me to actually get out of the

2842
02:29:23,590 --> 02:29:21,590
car

2843
02:29:26,889 --> 02:29:23,600
there was no hood and the trunk nerd

2844
02:29:29,469 --> 02:29:26,899
door on the driver's side was gone after

2845
02:29:31,500 --> 02:29:29,479
the last impact the seat went through

2846
02:29:34,210 --> 02:29:31,510
the back one thereafter the rocks popper

2847
02:29:36,790 --> 02:29:34,220
motor was laying about 300 yards with

2848
02:29:39,639 --> 02:29:36,800
the [\h__\h] probably 100 yards away the

2849
02:29:44,800 --> 02:29:39,649
rear axle was at the beginning of it all

2850
02:29:49,300 --> 02:29:44,810
about 300 yards back and so they all

2851
02:29:50,530 --> 02:29:49,310
said see you know and and that's Mike I

2852
02:29:52,330 --> 02:29:50,540
want to thank you for the phone call I

2853
02:29:55,030 --> 02:29:52,340
got a break to a commercial but what's

2854
02:29:57,130 --> 02:29:55,040
really cool is that you went through

2855
02:29:59,830 --> 02:29:57,140
that experience and then when you hear

2856
02:30:01,150 --> 02:29:59,840
something you know like Nick you know

2857
02:30:03,610 --> 02:30:01,160
that there's something else out there

2858
02:30:05,380 --> 02:30:03,620
you know I'll talk more about this when

2859
02:30:08,860 --> 02:30:05,390
I come back this is fade to black I'm

2860
02:30:10,210 --> 02:30:08,870
your host Jimmy Church its fate or night

2861
02:30:11,769 --> 02:30:10,220
Thursday night I'll be right back more

2862
02:30:13,230 --> 02:30:11,779
of your phone calls there next stay with

2863
02:30:18,521 --> 02:30:13,240
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2864
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2866
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2867
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2868
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2869
02:30:40,761 --> 02:30:38,101
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2870
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2871
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2872
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2873
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2874
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2875
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2881
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2882
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2884
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2885
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2886
02:31:15,951 --> 02:31:14,971
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02:33:40,801 --> 02:33:38,080
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2939
02:33:49,330 --> 02:33:40,811
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2940
02:33:53,970 --> 02:33:51,680
[Applause]

2941
02:33:58,080 --> 02:33:53,980
you want to know a secret

2942
02:34:01,020 --> 02:33:58,090
I love bullies I really love ponies I'm

2943
02:34:05,700 --> 02:34:01,030
serious I couldn't stay sane without

2944
02:34:10,980 --> 02:34:05,710
poor mr. rush life age but because you

2945
02:34:16,040 --> 02:34:13,530
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2946
02:34:20,850 --> 02:34:16,050
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2947
02:34:33,150 --> 02:34:20,860
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2948
02:34:35,200 --> 02:34:33,160
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2949
02:34:38,080 --> 02:34:35,210
all right welcome back fade to black

2950
02:34:40,210 --> 02:34:38,090
Thursday night Fator nights open lines

2951
02:34:42,430 --> 02:34:40,220
all my long had Nick Pope in taking

2952
02:34:45,551 --> 02:34:42,440
phone calls earlier Thank You Nick that

2953
02:34:48,011 --> 02:34:45,561
was that was great Jon Rappoport great

2954
02:34:50,830 --> 02:34:48,021
phone calls tonight mica in from the

2955
02:34:51,970 --> 02:34:50,840
United Kingdom and let's go back to the

2956
02:34:58,330 --> 02:34:51,980
phones hi your life I'm fade to black

2957
02:35:03,570 --> 02:34:58,340
who's calling hey man how are you that's

2958
02:35:05,860 --> 02:35:03,580
the question oh it's like my Thursday

2959
02:35:11,011 --> 02:35:05,870
night I'm good

2960
02:35:15,660 --> 02:35:13,720
okay just long as you're behaving I'll

2961
02:35:20,080 --> 02:35:15,670
take this phone call

2962
02:35:22,980 --> 02:35:20,090
always always curious because I've seen

2963
02:35:25,810 --> 02:35:22,990
the names on black vault about the a a

2964
02:35:27,940 --> 02:35:25,820
WPS or whatever it was that might have

2965
02:35:34,600 --> 02:35:27,950
actually been painted instead yeah all

2966
02:35:35,650 --> 02:35:34,610
SAP yeah yeah what it sounded like is it

2967
02:35:39,011 --> 02:35:35,660
sounded like we might have been doing

2968
02:35:41,710 --> 02:35:39,021
the clearings wrong on the freedom of

2969
02:35:43,420 --> 02:35:41,720
information act to us but it also sounds

2970
02:35:45,400 --> 02:35:43,430
like that may have been underhanded to

2971
02:35:47,261 --> 02:35:45,410
based on like you were saying I'll be

2972
02:35:48,520 --> 02:35:47,271
honest I didn't hear Nick Pope earlier

2973
02:35:51,160 --> 02:35:48,530
because I literally turn the show on

2974
02:35:53,560 --> 02:35:51,170
about 20 minutes yeah we didn't know

2975
02:35:57,160 --> 02:35:53,570
yeah we didn't talk about that tonight

2976
02:35:59,920 --> 02:35:57,170
but I I understand what you're saying

2977
02:36:02,380 --> 02:35:59,930
because that's what there are some out

2978
02:36:06,960 --> 02:36:02,390
there that are trying to suggest just

2979
02:36:10,930 --> 02:36:06,970
that and that may be the case that these

2980
02:36:15,490 --> 02:36:10,940
these these queries may be right right

2981
02:36:24,430 --> 02:36:15,500
but from blackbolt

2982
02:36:26,261 --> 02:36:24,440
know John Greenwald John John note that

2983
02:36:28,000 --> 02:36:26,271
came up on the site didn't sound like he

2984
02:36:30,820 --> 02:36:28,010
was insinuating there was any ill and

2985
02:36:32,740 --> 02:36:30,830
pen from to the stars over this

2986
02:36:33,970 --> 02:36:32,750
information it sounded like maybe that

2987
02:36:35,440 --> 02:36:33,980
they were going with information they

2988
02:36:38,051 --> 02:36:35,450
had and this is probably what it was

2989
02:36:40,900 --> 02:36:38,061
changed to and they didn't know this

2990
02:36:44,251 --> 02:36:40,910
news today nobody else did either yeah

2991
02:36:49,491 --> 02:36:44,261
the Buried went nowhere yeah to me

2992
02:36:52,381 --> 02:36:49,501
this is my take on that those are and

2993
02:36:55,140 --> 02:36:52,391
this has nothing to do with Greenwald

2994
02:36:58,560 --> 02:36:55,150
and his excellent research that he does

2995
02:37:06,871 --> 02:36:58,570
with the black vault this is my opinion

2996
02:37:09,661 --> 02:37:06,881
only which is the you have to have your

2997
02:37:13,651 --> 02:37:09,671
ducks in a row and if you are going to

2998
02:37:17,310 --> 02:37:13,661
come out and say a tip and you are going

2999
02:37:20,911 --> 02:37:17,320
to do a release like that and get this

3000
02:37:23,671 --> 02:37:20,921
information out in and quoted into the

3001
02:37:27,001 --> 02:37:23,681
New York Times then you know what it

3002
02:37:28,501 --> 02:37:27,011
needs to be correct right and that's it

3003
02:37:31,951 --> 02:37:28,511
you don't know yet you don't have a

3004
02:37:33,991 --> 02:37:31,961
second shot at that and and now that

3005
02:37:37,591 --> 02:37:34,001
it's come out that the Pentagon

3006
02:37:41,011 --> 02:37:37,601
themselves have said that it is aviation

3007
02:37:43,441 --> 02:37:41,021
and it's not aerospace I want that stuff

3008
02:37:45,810 --> 02:37:43,451
correct and I want answers for that I

3009
02:37:47,941 --> 02:37:45,820
don't want to have run around I don't

3010
02:37:49,801 --> 02:37:47,951
want to have rhetoric I don't want to

3011
02:37:51,301 --> 02:37:49,811
have it you know will it's a different

3012
02:37:55,081 --> 02:37:51,311
program it's this is that you know what

3013
02:37:58,741 --> 02:37:55,091
give me the documents that say a tip

3014
02:38:02,131 --> 02:37:58,751
with your name on it other than that

3015
02:38:06,481 --> 02:38:02,141
please save it I just don't want to hear

3016
02:38:09,541 --> 02:38:06,491
it this community has been run around in

3017
02:38:11,281 --> 02:38:09,551
circles for four decades and so if

3018
02:38:13,801 --> 02:38:11,291
you're gonna come out and say a tip is

3019
02:38:17,131 --> 02:38:13,811
this and and I ran this program I want

3020
02:38:20,041 --> 02:38:17,141
to see the documents I don't I don't

3021
02:38:22,921 --> 02:38:20,051
want I want I want I want your

3022
02:38:27,151 --> 02:38:22,931
resignation letter I want something but

3023
02:38:28,350 --> 02:38:27,161
don't give me words that's it I'm done

3024
02:38:32,520 --> 02:38:28,360
with it I'm done with it

3025
02:38:36,631 --> 02:38:32,530
a nas says weapons and and it has

3026
02:38:38,941 --> 02:38:36,641
nothing to do with the suggestion of ET

3027
02:38:41,821 --> 02:38:38,951
or anything else or UFOs or anything

3028
02:38:44,191 --> 02:38:41,831
else so it looks like it's a completely

3029
02:38:46,201 --> 02:38:44,201
separate program that has nothing it

3030
02:38:49,051 --> 02:38:46,211
sounds like Star Wars to me and that's

3031
02:38:51,361 --> 02:38:49,061
that's my take I just want I just want

3032
02:38:57,930 --> 02:38:51,371
the documentation to back this up right

3033
02:39:01,530 --> 02:38:59,670
if you read the note that was non

3034
02:39:06,180 --> 02:39:01,540
blackball one of the interesting lines

3035
02:39:09,801 --> 02:39:06,190
of that note that popped up oh we lost

3036
02:39:12,720 --> 02:39:09,811
you I just saw the David and did pop up

3037
02:39:15,210 --> 02:39:12,730
but that message clearly states that ah

3038
02:39:17,100 --> 02:39:15,220
stop actually was something that Corinne

3039
02:39:20,370 --> 02:39:17,110
good was talking about that's right no

3040
02:39:21,360 --> 02:39:20,380
no no right what I thought let me throw

3041
02:39:22,710 --> 02:39:21,370
this out there because I didn't want to

3042
02:39:24,780 --> 02:39:22,720
say this one for a while we talked about

3043
02:39:25,950 --> 02:39:24,790
the community policing itself right put

3044
02:39:27,540 --> 02:39:25,960
it throw it out there Jimmy I found the

3045
02:39:29,341 --> 02:39:27,550
stance with Corey good ever since I went

3046
02:39:32,070 --> 02:39:29,351
to the YouTube page and fought and found

3047
02:39:33,930 --> 02:39:32,080
the video of the blue orb and quite

3048
02:39:35,820 --> 02:39:33,940
clearly saw that he was using a night

3049
02:39:37,890 --> 02:39:35,830
vision filter because iPhones do not

3050
02:39:39,480 --> 02:39:37,900
have night vision built into them and

3051
02:39:41,551 --> 02:39:39,490
you can clearly see that that's a drone

3052
02:39:44,160 --> 02:39:41,561
with something attached to the top okay

3053
02:39:46,500 --> 02:39:44,170
I haven't seen what you're I think yeah

3054
02:39:48,960 --> 02:39:46,510
I haven't seen much and I haven't seen

3055
02:39:50,790 --> 02:39:48,970
what your reference out on there it's

3056
02:39:52,950 --> 02:39:50,800
called like blue orb filmed with whites

3057
02:39:55,200 --> 02:39:52,960
iPhone or something like that okay

3058
02:39:56,970 --> 02:39:55,210
he's never stated they could joke he has

3059
02:39:58,890 --> 02:39:56,980
stated that on your show a couple of

3060
02:40:00,930 --> 02:39:58,900
times that that's a legit video and even

3061
02:40:03,150 --> 02:40:00,940
on there people are calling it out right

3062
02:40:03,570 --> 02:40:03,160
right and comments still there right

3063
02:40:05,220 --> 02:40:03,580
right

3064
02:40:06,240 --> 02:40:05,230
I'm not trying to call him out into a

3065
02:40:08,190 --> 02:40:06,250
corner because what I find very

3066
02:40:09,750 --> 02:40:08,200
fascinating about this is wait a minute

3067
02:40:12,480 --> 02:40:09,760
Corey Goods been talking about ah stop

3068
02:40:14,551 --> 02:40:12,490
for a couple of years and now suddenly

3069
02:40:17,841 --> 02:40:14,561
we're getting hits on it with Freedom of

3070
02:40:20,730 --> 02:40:17,851
Information Act that actually almost

3071
02:40:22,650 --> 02:40:20,740
somewhat makes Corey sound like you

3072
02:40:25,350 --> 02:40:22,660
really into he is and I know you guys

3073
02:40:26,881 --> 02:40:25,360
have your relationship but the outsider

3074
02:40:29,220 --> 02:40:26,891
is looking in there's a lot of us that

3075
02:40:31,950 --> 02:40:29,230
look at what he and David have to say

3076
02:40:37,080 --> 02:40:31,960
and kind of look at it and go on the

3077
02:40:41,220 --> 02:40:37,090
thing and you have to be you have to be

3078
02:40:43,740 --> 02:40:41,230
on the fence you have to be yeah you

3079
02:40:45,720 --> 02:40:43,750
have the dr. Michael sallow books that

3080
02:40:47,430 --> 02:40:45,730
also corroborate what he says get as far

3081
02:40:49,051 --> 02:40:47,440
as I can tell the two of them never met

3082
02:40:51,780 --> 02:40:49,061
and so way later when they were both

3083
02:40:54,480 --> 02:40:51,790
doing guy stuff yeah yep yep yep yep

3084
02:40:58,140 --> 02:40:54,490
that's a little interesting it is it is

3085
02:41:02,220 --> 02:40:58,150
okay so let me quickly

3086
02:41:06,870 --> 02:41:02,230
state here now that it is gone public a

3087
02:41:09,511 --> 02:41:06,880
little bit the document that has a SAP

3088
02:41:11,820 --> 02:41:09,521
in it that has been referenced that

3089
02:41:17,570 --> 02:41:11,830
document was sent to me laugh

3090
02:41:22,140 --> 02:41:17,580
year okay it was sent to me by Corey and

3091
02:41:26,040 --> 02:41:22,150
I read there's two there's two reports

3092
02:41:28,260 --> 02:41:26,050
and written by Eric Davis and I read

3093
02:41:31,080 --> 02:41:28,270
through the reports and I'm just gonna

3094
02:41:33,860 --> 02:41:31,090
say this out in the open right now when

3095
02:41:36,810 --> 02:41:33,870
I read through the two reports that

3096
02:41:39,930 --> 02:41:36,820
Corey sent me this before it got

3097
02:41:42,240 --> 02:41:39,940
published online I read through them and

3098
02:41:44,580 --> 02:41:42,250
I thought okay cool stuff wormholes you

3099
02:41:45,840 --> 02:41:44,590
know warp drives this is fun stuff but

3100
02:41:49,890 --> 02:41:45,850
it's science fiction

3101
02:41:52,980 --> 02:41:49,900
it's theory okay its theory and it's fun

3102
02:41:56,550 --> 02:41:52,990
to read and I just left it on my desktop

3103
02:42:00,420 --> 02:41:56,560
Corey then published it in December I

3104
02:42:01,860 --> 02:42:00,430
think he sent it to me like October of

3105
02:42:04,020 --> 02:42:01,870
last year so we're looking at nine

3106
02:42:06,630 --> 02:42:04,030
months ago I got these documents I

3107
02:42:08,520 --> 02:42:06,640
didn't speak about him publicly I just

3108
02:42:11,370 --> 02:42:08,530
sat on them I read through them they're

3109
02:42:15,300 --> 02:42:11,380
both extensive and long and and I just

3110
02:42:18,330 --> 02:42:15,310
let it go when it came out last week

3111
02:42:21,510 --> 02:42:18,340
that there was this secret document

3112
02:42:26,430 --> 02:42:21,520
right well and there was an insider that

3113
02:42:28,610 --> 02:42:26,440
had leaked the no the the document page

3114
02:42:33,210 --> 02:42:28,620
that was reference I'm not gonna say who

3115
02:42:36,210 --> 02:42:33,220
on this particular blog was the exact

3116
02:42:39,060 --> 02:42:36,220
PDF that Corey made of these files when

3117
02:42:44,480 --> 02:42:39,070
he sent it to me it's like wait a minute

3118
02:42:48,840 --> 02:42:44,490
and the cover of the document says for

3119
02:42:50,520 --> 02:42:48,850
release right it's it's not secret it's

3120
02:42:52,940 --> 02:42:50,530
for internal use only

3121
02:42:56,940 --> 02:42:52,950
so this had been floating around since

3122
02:42:59,219 --> 02:42:56,950
2010 when the document the report I

3123
02:43:00,960 --> 02:42:59,229
should say was written and aa sap is

3124
02:43:04,050 --> 02:43:00,970
referenced in there but it's not top

3125
02:43:06,000 --> 02:43:04,060
secret it's not anything it's a report

3126
02:43:09,870 --> 02:43:06,010
that was written by Eric Davis two of

3127
02:43:14,640 --> 02:43:09,880
them and there was no insider leaking

3128
02:43:17,010 --> 02:43:14,650
these things and all of that I'm sorry I

3129
02:43:19,230 --> 02:43:17,020
just don't buy into that because I was

3130
02:43:21,900 --> 02:43:19,240
sent the documents and Cory was given

3131
02:43:23,760 --> 02:43:21,910
these reports and was told then that

3132
02:43:25,859 --> 02:43:23,770
these weren't secret

3133
02:43:28,950 --> 02:43:25,869
and it's clearly states on the time the

3134
02:43:31,529 --> 02:43:28,960
cover of that they are not so with the

3135
02:43:36,080 --> 02:43:31,539
reference to ah sap whatever you know

3136
02:43:39,210 --> 02:43:36,090
it's a weapons program that could be

3137
02:43:42,090 --> 02:43:39,220
Star Wars or whatever but it has nothing

3138
02:43:45,990 --> 02:43:42,100
to do with a tip and for somebody to say

3139
02:43:47,880 --> 02:43:46,000
that and I could be way wrong here but

3140
02:43:50,519 --> 02:43:47,890
and I've discussed this with a green

3141
02:43:53,580 --> 02:43:50,529
wall at lengthen and green wall has his

3142
02:43:56,880 --> 02:43:53,590
opinion I have mine but I don't see

3143
02:43:58,380 --> 02:43:56,890
anything it that has anything to do with

3144
02:44:02,250 --> 02:43:58,390
anything here it's just something that's

3145
02:44:03,899 --> 02:44:02,260
in a deep an unclassified report that

3146
02:44:05,490 --> 02:44:03,909
was written by Eric Davis and that's the

3147
02:44:08,279 --> 02:44:05,500
end of the story has nothing to do with

3148
02:44:10,080 --> 02:44:08,289
a tip and I still have my issues with a

3149
02:44:13,279 --> 02:44:10,090
tip and that's the end of it that's the

3150
02:44:17,729 --> 02:44:13,289
end of it I think it's great that Corey

3151
02:44:19,920 --> 02:44:17,739
found these he was given them and and

3152
02:44:22,439 --> 02:44:19,930
that he chose to post them online and

3153
02:44:25,019 --> 02:44:22,449
they've been out there for for since

3154
02:44:27,319 --> 02:44:25,029
December and it's nothing secret and

3155
02:44:31,800 --> 02:44:27,329
there's nothing crazy about it it's a

3156
02:44:34,830 --> 02:44:31,810
two reports by Eric Davis and the note

3157
02:44:36,630 --> 02:44:34,840
on green walls web page made it sound

3158
02:44:38,370 --> 02:44:36,640
like he got it from a Freedom of

3159
02:44:40,830 --> 02:44:38,380
Information Act request about awesome

3160
02:44:42,149 --> 02:44:40,840
and that's where these information is

3161
02:44:45,059 --> 02:44:42,159
coming from not from something closed

3162
02:44:48,540 --> 02:44:45,069
online back then yes I could be wrong no

3163
02:44:51,330 --> 02:44:48,550
no no no now what you're referring to

3164
02:44:57,899 --> 02:44:51,340
there is and this was quite by accident

3165
02:45:00,809 --> 02:44:57,909
which is really cool your toe on gold

3166
02:45:03,029 --> 02:45:00,819
yes yes because it sounded like because

3167
02:45:06,000 --> 02:45:03,039
Sean yes this is what John told me

3168
02:45:08,250 --> 02:45:06,010
himself and I don't want to quote him or

3169
02:45:09,990 --> 02:45:08,260
anything I can bring him on the show and

3170
02:45:13,559 --> 02:45:10,000
he can tell me exactly again and he can

3171
02:45:17,130 --> 02:45:13,569
repeat it but he the AUSA happened to

3172
02:45:21,229 --> 02:45:17,140
show up in another search that he had

3173
02:45:24,450 --> 02:45:21,239
done I believe a couple of years ago and

3174
02:45:27,330 --> 02:45:24,460
and it happened to be in there I think

3175
02:45:29,219 --> 02:45:27,340
that's what he said and he was like man

3176
02:45:31,410 --> 02:45:29,229
what are the odds of this how cool is

3177
02:45:34,979 --> 02:45:31,420
I'm like absolutely right what are the

3178
02:45:37,440 --> 02:45:34,989
odds right so and that's what he's

3179
02:45:39,421 --> 02:45:37,450
referring to on his site

3180
02:45:42,390 --> 02:45:39,431
I'll have to go back and look I didn't

3181
02:45:44,730 --> 02:45:42,400
go to black vault and check it out but

3182
02:45:47,910 --> 02:45:44,740
he did tell me about this in a phone

3183
02:45:50,341 --> 02:45:47,920
call last week and I think we followed

3184
02:45:52,131 --> 02:45:50,351
up on it what is today today's Thursday

3185
02:45:55,560 --> 02:45:52,141
I think I've talked to Monday or Tuesday

3186
02:45:58,710 --> 02:45:55,570
I can get John back on the show

3187
02:46:00,660 --> 02:45:58,720
and I should call him right now maybe I

3188
02:46:03,000 --> 02:46:00,670
should maybe I should just call him

3189
02:46:05,370 --> 02:46:03,010
right now but yeah yeah pretty cool

3190
02:46:07,171 --> 02:46:05,380
so they're gonna get my questions we

3191
02:46:09,240 --> 02:46:07,181
read it answered BAM

3192
02:46:13,830 --> 02:46:09,250
have a great night and be safe driving

3193
02:46:17,120 --> 02:46:13,840
that truck driving home in the car oh

3194
02:46:18,900 --> 02:46:17,130
there you go all right thank you behave

3195
02:46:21,841 --> 02:46:18,910
you guys have a great night

3196
02:46:25,140 --> 02:46:21,851
yeah you too thank you hi you're live on

3197
02:46:33,060 --> 02:46:25,150
fade to black who's calling yo Jimmy

3198
02:46:35,900 --> 02:46:33,070
what's cracking who's this hello hello

3199
02:46:39,330 --> 02:46:35,910
yes here you're live

3200
02:46:44,210 --> 02:46:39,340
hey yo Jordan oh hey Jordan how are you

3201
02:46:54,150 --> 02:46:44,220
man man how you doing so who is the best

3202
02:46:57,150 --> 02:46:54,160
metal guitar player from the 80s I knew

3203
02:46:59,011 --> 02:46:57,160
you I was gonna answer for you okay Mick

3204
02:47:04,530 --> 02:46:59,021
Mars there you go what's on your mind

3205
02:47:08,720 --> 02:47:04,540
tonight Jordan the last song that I

3206
02:47:14,100 --> 02:47:08,730
listened to today you mean today

3207
02:47:18,810 --> 02:47:14,110
would have been what did I listen to

3208
02:47:21,360 --> 02:47:18,820
today I listened to oh oh you know what

3209
02:47:25,890 --> 02:47:21,370
I listened to and it was incredible what

3210
02:47:28,140 --> 02:47:25,900
I listened to was Graham bonnet number

3211
02:47:31,320 --> 02:47:28,150
one his new release I listened to that

3212
02:47:39,350 --> 02:47:31,330
and then immediately after that I

3213
02:47:44,011 --> 02:47:39,360
listened to Steve Vai and Chad Smith and

3214
02:47:49,530 --> 02:47:44,021
do a cover version of burn by deep

3215
02:47:50,560 --> 02:47:49,540
purple yeah man so that's what I

3216
02:47:53,830 --> 02:47:50,570
listened to today

3217
02:47:59,110 --> 02:47:53,840
and I listen to and I think it's off of

3218
02:48:01,270 --> 02:47:59,120
re machined it's a deep purple cover

3219
02:48:02,680 --> 02:48:01,280
album but man what an incredible version

3220
02:48:07,301 --> 02:48:02,690
of that song oh man

3221
02:48:09,671 --> 02:48:07,311
and it's it's close the keyboard solo is

3222
02:48:13,780 --> 02:48:09,681
is know for note but other than that

3223
02:48:16,060 --> 02:48:13,790
it's a complete redo really well done

3224
02:48:21,640 --> 02:48:16,070
really well done okay so what's on your

3225
02:48:23,261 --> 02:48:21,650
mind Jordan so man it was a good week

3226
02:48:25,360 --> 02:48:23,271
this week with all the shows man that's

3227
02:48:31,421 --> 02:48:25,370
crazy yeah I know I learned so much [\h__\h]

3228
02:48:33,211 --> 02:48:31,431
about that oh but you know Pretty Boy

3229
02:48:37,301 --> 02:48:33,221
Floyd right yep

3230
02:48:40,660 --> 02:48:37,311
did you hear their drummer died no are

3231
02:48:44,370 --> 02:48:40,670
you kidding man yeah he died yeah omeone

3232
02:48:47,080 --> 02:48:44,380
1845 he had cancer I didn't know that

3233
02:48:49,480 --> 02:48:47,090
yeah man he died yesterday I think oh

3234
02:48:51,220 --> 02:48:49,490
yeah when I went I saw him and uh I

3235
02:48:54,850 --> 02:48:51,230
thought pretty boy boy determined did

3236
02:48:57,280 --> 02:48:54,860
that he collapsed on stage and my

3237
02:48:59,230 --> 02:48:57,290
friend's mom actually helped save him he

3238
02:49:01,330 --> 02:48:59,240
was like it was crazy dude he like

3239
02:49:03,480 --> 02:49:01,340
totally passed out and during a song

3240
02:49:06,220 --> 02:49:03,490
like right during a song and then he uh

3241
02:49:14,470 --> 02:49:06,230
yeah he ended up dying like yesterday

3242
02:49:21,280 --> 02:49:14,480
man yeah crazy huh I did not I'm blown

3243
02:49:23,140 --> 02:49:21,290
away I'm looking here to see uh I I

3244
02:49:26,740 --> 02:49:23,150
don't see it online oh wait a minute

3245
02:49:28,091 --> 02:49:26,750
here we go they only did an Instagram

3246
02:49:31,480 --> 02:49:28,101
post there's really not much about it

3247
02:49:35,770 --> 02:49:31,490
yeah here it is right here yeah I've got

3248
02:49:41,950 --> 02:49:35,780
it done wow that's crazy and the thing

3249
02:49:43,780 --> 02:49:41,960
is back back in the 80s and there's

3250
02:49:45,520 --> 02:49:43,790
probably some people that are listening

3251
02:49:46,270 --> 02:49:45,530
right now that'll know exactly what I'm

3252
02:49:48,430 --> 02:49:46,280
talking about

3253
02:49:50,200 --> 02:49:48,440
there was a rehearsal studio in

3254
02:49:52,961 --> 02:49:50,210
Hollywood it was called the Hollywood

3255
02:49:57,660 --> 02:49:52,971
and Western building on the corner of

3256
02:50:00,250 --> 02:49:57,670
Hollywood and Western and they rehearsed

3257
02:50:03,309 --> 02:50:00,260
with us on

3258
02:50:07,480 --> 02:50:03,319
fourth floor there for a couple of years

3259
02:50:10,510 --> 02:50:07,490
and yeah the coolest band in the world I

3260
02:50:12,130 --> 02:50:10,520
mean I I can't tell you how many times

3261
02:50:16,929 --> 02:50:12,140
I've seen him play and how much fun that

3262
02:50:20,219 --> 02:50:16,939
we had but maybe a really good cover of

3263
02:50:31,080 --> 02:50:25,900
man I am blown away I am just I don't

3264
02:50:34,389 --> 02:50:31,090
even know what to to think about this I

3265
02:50:35,790 --> 02:50:34,399
I just don't know what to say so he had

3266
02:50:40,990 --> 02:50:35,800
cancer

3267
02:50:43,630 --> 02:50:41,000
like we totally watched him collapse on

3268
02:50:45,219 --> 02:50:43,640
stage at Herman's hideaway which we

3269
02:50:47,440 --> 02:50:45,229
played that stage that's where we opened

3270
02:50:48,849 --> 02:50:47,450
up for a hookers blow Wow

3271
02:50:51,969 --> 02:50:48,859
yeah we totally watched him collapse on

3272
02:50:53,969 --> 02:50:51,979
stage and yeah his my friend's mom

3273
02:50:56,679 --> 02:50:53,979
helped save him is crazy

3274
02:50:58,210 --> 02:50:56,689
Wow and then you see so fight shows

3275
02:51:00,219 --> 02:50:58,220
after that he was like so client shows

3276
02:51:03,420 --> 02:51:00,229
like he's dessert he's finding like New

3277
02:51:07,510 --> 02:51:03,430
York like a week after that crazy Wow I

3278
02:51:13,150 --> 02:51:07,520
mean I'm I'm blown away

3279
02:51:20,110 --> 02:51:13,160
the are weat the drummer that I remember

3280
02:51:23,110 --> 02:51:20,120
back then as then was Carrie oh it's not

3281
02:51:25,330 --> 02:51:23,120
Carrie okay no that's what I went for

3282
02:51:26,889 --> 02:51:25,340
whatever reason but yeah yeah how these

3283
02:51:29,920 --> 02:51:26,899
bands are nowadays they have like all

3284
02:51:32,740 --> 02:51:29,930
kinds of you name members all kind of

3285
02:51:33,969 --> 02:51:32,750
changes right now you have Jack Russell

3286
02:51:35,679 --> 02:51:33,979
great white and then you have the

3287
02:51:38,200 --> 02:51:35,689
original great white and they have Bobby

3288
02:51:41,349 --> 02:51:38,210
Blosser rat and now Steven piercings rat

3289
02:51:47,260 --> 02:51:41,359
you know right right right yeah yeah

3290
02:51:50,769 --> 02:51:47,270
it's well look at Queens Reich you know

3291
02:51:55,330 --> 02:51:50,779
I mean how could we have Queens right

3292
02:51:57,580 --> 02:51:55,340
without Jeff Tate I'd listen to I went I

3293
02:52:01,090 --> 02:51:57,590
went back to back a couple of weeks ago

3294
02:52:03,790 --> 02:52:01,100
and I was listening to the new singer

3295
02:52:06,610 --> 02:52:03,800
for Queens Reich and he and I did that

3296
02:52:09,130 --> 02:52:06,620
first and I think the song that I

3297
02:52:12,070 --> 02:52:09,140
listened to was n m156

3298
02:52:13,720 --> 02:52:12,080
right so I'm listening to the new Queens

3299
02:52:16,421 --> 02:52:13,730
Reich live doing that

3300
02:52:19,631 --> 02:52:16,431
with the new singer and then I went over

3301
02:52:25,810 --> 02:52:19,641
and caught Jeff Tate's Queens Reich

3302
02:52:30,790 --> 02:52:25,820
doing n m156 man man two different

3303
02:52:32,740 --> 02:52:30,800
things going on here and it's I mean

3304
02:52:35,470 --> 02:52:32,750
that that's all I'm gonna say both

3305
02:52:37,091 --> 02:52:35,480
versions are good you know in the end

3306
02:52:39,761 --> 02:52:37,101
the original Queens Reich you know you

3307
02:52:43,091 --> 02:52:39,771
got the back you know in it you know but

3308
02:52:45,790 --> 02:52:43,101
but Jeff Tate is Jeff Tate and I don't

3309
02:52:47,830 --> 02:52:45,800
want to I don't want to take anything

3310
02:52:52,060 --> 02:52:47,840
away from this other singer I don't know

3311
02:52:53,980 --> 02:52:52,070
his name because he's good but there's

3312
02:52:55,421 --> 02:52:53,990
only one Jeff Tate right there's only

3313
02:52:59,770 --> 02:52:55,431
one yeah I agree

3314
02:53:02,230 --> 02:52:59,780
it's kind of like they're gonna replace

3315
02:53:04,330 --> 02:53:02,240
me here with my court knowing rush as

3316
02:53:06,190 --> 02:53:04,340
good as that would be it's not rush

3317
02:53:11,190 --> 02:53:06,200
without he'll cure you I mean no it's

3318
02:53:15,030 --> 02:53:11,200
not and well let's go with Ripper Owens

3319
02:53:21,511 --> 02:53:15,040
right yeah great Ripper Owens is good

3320
02:53:27,310 --> 02:53:24,460
and I'm not taking anything against away

3321
02:53:29,470 --> 02:53:27,320
from Ripper dude okay so who do you

3322
02:53:32,729 --> 02:53:29,480
think rips the best more for there's a

3323
02:53:40,650 --> 02:53:37,830
oh man you know what you've been all up

3324
02:53:42,599 --> 02:53:40,660
close and personal I have no yes yes

3325
02:53:45,479 --> 02:53:42,609
I've been right there with both of them

3326
02:53:47,189 --> 02:53:45,489
face to face but the thing is you're

3327
02:53:51,030 --> 02:53:47,199
talking about two different styles there

3328
02:53:54,689 --> 02:53:51,040
now if I was okay if I was gonna say

3329
02:53:57,840 --> 02:53:54,699
rock and roll dude rock and roll yeah

3330
02:54:00,450 --> 02:53:57,850
you got a go deal but if you're going a

3331
02:54:02,460 --> 02:54:00,460
heavy metal I think the the more

3332
02:54:06,120 --> 02:54:02,470
difficult argument that you get into

3333
02:54:09,780 --> 02:54:06,130
here is a Rob Halford or Jeff Tate ooh

3334
02:54:13,559 --> 02:54:09,790
now now we're into a zone here that

3335
02:54:15,990 --> 02:54:13,569
that's rough end that's that's rough

3336
02:54:18,269 --> 02:54:16,000
I mean what do you do with that but I'd

3337
02:54:21,750 --> 02:54:18,279
say the overall dude I mean the overall

3338
02:54:24,210 --> 02:54:21,760
rock and roll guy then then you got to

3339
02:54:26,910 --> 02:54:24,220
say Robert Plant or you know you got to

3340
02:54:31,950 --> 02:54:26,920
go into some different areas there and

3341
02:54:33,599 --> 02:54:31,960
it's really really really tough so you

3342
02:54:36,630 --> 02:54:33,609
know what and then you know what I

3343
02:54:41,120 --> 02:54:36,640
really like Graham bonnet and and Graham

3344
02:54:44,809 --> 02:54:41,130
bonnet yeah man he's just absolutely

3345
02:54:48,660 --> 02:54:44,819
incredible I I've said over the years

3346
02:54:52,710 --> 02:54:48,670
what what do you do about somebody like

3347
02:54:58,320 --> 02:54:52,720
Graham bonnet who is so melodical so

3348
02:55:02,760 --> 02:54:58,330
pure he well and go back you know he can

3349
02:55:05,370 --> 02:55:02,770
sing R&B you know and you go back to his

3350
02:55:08,700 --> 02:55:05,380
stuff that he did in the in the early

3351
02:55:11,219 --> 02:55:08,710
early 70s before rainbow and you're like

3352
02:55:15,360 --> 02:55:11,229
man you know he's one of the best the

3353
02:55:19,620 --> 02:55:15,370
late sixties so anyway what do you do

3354
02:55:21,330 --> 02:55:19,630
with these kinds of decisions I I don't

3355
02:55:25,620 --> 02:55:21,340
know I don't know my heart lies with

3356
02:55:28,229 --> 02:55:25,630
with Rob Halford when when Queens Reich

3357
02:55:30,240 --> 02:55:28,239
came along that first EP with queen of

3358
02:55:31,620 --> 02:55:30,250
the Reich and I heard that and I thought

3359
02:55:32,479 --> 02:55:31,630
well there's the greatest singer that

3360
02:55:35,729 --> 02:55:32,489
ever lived

3361
02:55:40,091 --> 02:55:35,739
yeah and the first Queens right album

3362
02:55:46,511 --> 02:55:40,101
and the second one the warning oh my

3363
02:55:48,551 --> 02:55:46,521
oh yeah vocals out it's crazy dude yeah

3364
02:55:50,980 --> 02:55:48,561
I wish I had that kind of rainy yep yeah

3365
02:55:53,230 --> 02:55:50,990
I you know what I did with Rita I did

3366
02:55:57,490 --> 02:55:53,240
this I've got a run here I've got ahead

3367
02:56:00,400 --> 02:55:57,500
Jordan but back in like this like 15

3368
02:56:02,980 --> 02:56:00,410
years ago I said to read us it do you

3369
02:56:04,961 --> 02:56:02,990
really want to hear a good singer and we

3370
02:56:07,381 --> 02:56:04,971
were just debating one day about you

3371
02:56:11,890 --> 02:56:07,391
know music and stuff and I played her

3372
02:56:18,370 --> 02:56:11,900
silent lucidity and and I think I played

3373
02:56:20,980 --> 02:56:18,380
her right and I played her flame right

3374
02:56:23,171 --> 02:56:20,990
take hold of the flame yeah and she was

3375
02:56:27,070 --> 02:56:23,181
like I've never heard anybody sing like

3376
02:56:31,120 --> 02:56:27,080
this you know and man yeah he blows

3377
02:56:32,650 --> 02:56:31,130
people's minds you know and and so I was

3378
02:56:38,470 --> 02:56:32,660
like boom wow that's great

3379
02:56:42,970 --> 02:56:38,480
he's like the bed yeah I I saw I saw

3380
02:56:49,631 --> 02:56:42,980
Queens Reich open for kiss in like 1984

3381
02:56:52,720 --> 02:56:49,641
yeah 8480 you know what you want me to

3382
02:56:58,780 --> 02:56:52,730
blow your mind I don't even remember I

3383
02:57:02,440 --> 02:56:58,790
went there to go see it was it was 80 84

3384
02:57:05,650 --> 02:57:02,450
85 Long Beach arena yeah and I went to

3385
02:57:09,520 --> 02:57:05,660
go see Queens Reich and kiss had them

3386
02:57:12,551 --> 02:57:09,530
they had them so choked back the Queen's

3387
02:57:15,671 --> 02:57:12,561
Reich was really low and compressed and

3388
02:57:17,980 --> 02:57:15,681
but they sounded amazing and kiss came

3389
02:57:20,680 --> 02:57:17,990
out and it was all loud you know and

3390
02:57:24,190 --> 02:57:20,690
everything and it sounded like crap

3391
02:57:25,870 --> 02:57:24,200
and and kiss really got shown up hey

3392
02:57:28,150 --> 02:57:25,880
Jordan behave and be well my friend

3393
02:57:29,370 --> 02:57:28,160
enjoy the rest of your weekend go have

3394
02:57:32,110 --> 02:57:29,380
some fun

3395
02:57:34,390 --> 02:57:32,120
alright man before I go we're playing a

3396
02:57:36,850 --> 02:57:34,400
show this weekend at an artery for Colin

3397
02:57:38,440 --> 02:57:36,860
yeah so it's gonna be 15 bucks anybody

3398
02:57:39,970 --> 02:57:38,450
that's in for Colin tomorrow and check

3399
02:57:41,680 --> 02:57:39,980
us out man

3400
02:57:44,591 --> 02:57:41,690
what if they were fade to black sir do

3401
02:57:46,211 --> 02:57:44,601
they get in for free yeah they get in

3402
02:57:48,011 --> 02:57:46,221
for free and they get an instant Empire

3403
02:57:50,410 --> 02:57:48,021
shirt that's what I'm talking about

3404
02:57:52,900 --> 02:57:50,420
all right Jordan have a great gig this

3405
02:57:53,440 --> 02:57:52,910
weekend take some pictures all right man

3406
02:57:55,690 --> 02:57:53,450
Oh

3407
02:57:58,320 --> 02:57:55,700
so I will do for sure there you go

3408
02:58:01,150 --> 02:57:58,330
Jordan the drummer for infinite Empire

3409
02:58:03,341 --> 02:58:01,160
playing this weekend you heard it in

3410
02:58:05,230 --> 02:58:03,351
Fort Collins go check it out all right I

3411
02:58:07,450 --> 02:58:05,240
got to get out of here it's another

3412
02:58:10,150 --> 02:58:07,460
Fator night great night tonight with

3413
02:58:13,051 --> 02:58:10,160
everybody thank you so much and of

3414
02:58:17,620 --> 02:58:13,061
course I've got to thank Jon Rappoport

3415
02:58:19,960 --> 02:58:17,630
for his no more fake newsroom live then

3416
02:58:21,460 --> 02:58:19,970
of course Nick Pope coming in and

3417
02:58:23,970 --> 02:58:21,470
Manning the phones with me tonight

3418
02:58:26,440 --> 02:58:23,980
heating things up great conversation

3419
02:58:29,020 --> 02:58:26,450
painted blacks executive producers Rita

3420
02:58:29,830 --> 02:58:29,030
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3421
02:58:32,680 --> 02:58:29,840
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3422
02:58:35,350 --> 02:58:32,690
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3423
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3424
02:58:42,160 --> 02:58:38,420
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3425
02:58:45,460 --> 02:58:42,170
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3426
02:58:50,970 --> 02:58:45,470
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3427
02:58:55,660 --> 02:58:54,160
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3428
02:58:57,341 --> 02:58:55,670
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3429
02:58:59,591 --> 02:58:57,351
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3430
02:59:01,841 --> 02:58:59,601
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3431
02:59:03,490 --> 02:59:01,851
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3432
02:59:05,650 --> 02:59:03,500
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3433
02:59:08,710 --> 02:59:05,660
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3434
02:59:12,520 --> 02:59:08,720
Church follow me on twitter @ JT radio

3435
02:59:15,190 --> 02:59:12,530
head over to on stellar everybody until

3436
02:59:17,450 --> 02:59:15,200
Monday everybody be safe

3437
02:59:27,820 --> 02:59:17,460
go back ly toughy